tommy, to any "REAL" grower you sound like another that dont know what hes posting to then if ya want to, sine you want to insult me...when we give temps its suposed to be under the lamp where the peek temp would be at the canopy bub....we dont read it way at a side of a room or on out of the room...its suposed to be canopy temps. not m problem guys give temps in wrong places...like your doing,

dood..i dont think your a douche. just did that since staff seemed to think thats a compliment. that was more rediculous the the insult...lol. apperently overt there its a compliment or something. you see it as bringing others down i saw it as getting shit on for not agreeing with the click and went to shit from there. nah bud im used to the kids attacking all the time and y ex bosses threatening me for exposing stuff. used to all of it, doesnt mean i tollerate it though...i was tryin to share what i did to get what i get but i kept being told no way..thats not how we do it so its wrong, maybe some need to look in the mirror and see they were doing the react same as they were asking me not to also...takes 2 for drama or an issue. not 1.

dont worry douche. im done here anyways. to much. to much drama here for me. better shit to do

hillarious im asked my OINION and get shit on. dont ask an opinion if all some wanted was to argue and say wrong...

bud id just keep doing what you where doing. you have a real pen now. its was obvious it was all because of the cheepo pool ph tester. didnt even go below 6 so you never had right ph ever. cant if it didnt go to the 5`s. youll be fine now you can see what the proper and real ph is. that was impossible before nomatter what as the liquid ph kits cant be used properly with coloured nutes...you cant add colours together and get the true ph reading the drops relate to, they only work...and only work so so in plain water. as long as you keep the ph between 5.,5 and 5.9 ish youll be fine.

ok to start with your oh is way way to hi. thats your problem right there..hydro is down at 5.5 to 5.8 ish. best tip...toss the liquid ph test kt. tey are for swimmng pools with clear water. not for growing plants and using colored nutes. will never get a true reading, those have been the death of so many poor guys grows. i wished they wouldnt even sell the shit in the hydro shops. only giving 1/4 food for the veg is another reason they are deff. you need proper tools to run hydro...a framer wont go try to build a home without his hammer... sorry to hear fat mike gotcha on his so called ph perfect...not so perfect is it...lol..sorry had to laugh at his product, if we could remove the human factor then maybe...maybe it would be ph perfect, its why ph messes up in the first lace...it wasnt the foods fault. its always us. wow read next posts...bit of a mess going on dood...before you do anything you need to see if you have disease. you can run water till the end of the world but if its diseased it wont do anything. and you room temps 68?...way way way to cold..thats not above your plant sis it?. its got to be outter room air get in there and look vat the roots, tey have to be pure white or you need to run h2o2 to kill the pathogens before you can do anything...if they come back now..not sure how long tis has been but seems like a while now from hw im reading this

ya but being called a douche isnt professional and if i felt like exposing that tid bit i will. maybe the douche above should have done his in pm as well. but nooo. lets just shit on the new fish....clicky clicky..???. obviously

ok ive noticed alot of stuff being put down that i dont say...are some having a hard time following the language barrier cause i sure didnt say anywhere i hadnt ever done this..i cant say they suck unless i have done and seen results. not sure why theres so much of this putting word in my mouth on this site. if i didnt say it please dont just assume it i was asked MY opinion and my OPINION from exp is waste of time. i cant supply my patients inferiour meds like that. id get beat down for it. ive seen the test results and not once does a 12/12 from seed get close to its max potential, to me if im not tryin to achieve m best why bother growing. why row bunk??...to us around here that would be concidered bunk. to me its mainly new guys with no pacience to wait properly is the ones doing that, and way less yields and i dont call all lights under 800 small..most run 600 anyways. 1k isnt efficient. to me small is cfl or flouro. or led, 600 is not small, and i dont see how light size has anything to do with flowering plants before they are suposed to?..works the same with a 23 watt cfl as it does with 5k watts, wait for alternating nodes then flower. all the same no mater what light if your doing things properly...or what most would call proper anyways. for me i can buy it for less than that would be worth to grow...and be better smoke to since it was taken to full maturity before they flowered it. ive done all the math myself for costs and timing to veg and so on. and how i run it is ms efficient way here. ...harvest every 90 days??.why would you say i do that...again your assuming stuff dood. i veg 3 weeks and fower 8...that isnt 90 days. your no faster than i am dood but alot less end reusult if they dont get left to mature proper 1 gal per foot of veg growth or 1 month of veg growth is how you determine pot size..his is waaay to big for what it needs, waste of more and soil and nutes and time. all i ever use is 2 and max 3 gal if i had to veg a bit more for some reason. i see alot use way to large of pots and wonder why they get watering issues, probably the main case there is so may think they are root bound...and that dont happen or they die actualy. im actualy doing another to prove this once again m current grow since so ma dont believe that. i have 1 ga pot in with 2 gal and fliped on same day...well see this mystical way better yields like we get told by running bigger pots...it wont happen. more veg is all that makes more, not more plastic and dirt. and with smaller lights even less is needed

ya i know you dont see being called a douche as bad..you tell me in pm its a good thing....rediculous dood. maybe i can call you a douche to??..you said it was fine to do so to me....lol..

???..hu??..i never said anything to him??.i even appologized for my part in this....and i get it again???..you guys realy dont make sence to me. i dont see anywhere that i said he has no say ...its why i appologized in the first place as its his thread. sory dood i will not take being called a dc ad walk away. nobody should have to,..thats total lack of respect and i get shit for his rudeness?..ill own my own poo here and i did by appologizing, but its hillarious he gets totaly avoided and he does the exact same....seems clicky to me.

ill appogize to you handyman. wasnt ever my intention here for this to go where it did....lol. seems im being followed now by him on other threads and gettin it there to. ill leave this one alone....another sensless argument. if someone slowed down to read better non of this might have happened

whats up with me?. you obviously didnt read it same way either. guys tells me im sorta nuts to say the user shod check run off to know what to flush or add food. so buddy thee argues trying to make me look stupid but in the end he totaly just agreed with what i started to say to the user here???..and you say im the issue??..this isnt the first time either i got it for others bullshit...whats wrong on this site hey bubba...at least i dot come on and my first post is callin a guy a douche...way to go bubb

i wouldnt ever waste seeds on running right to 12/12. sorry but i think thats the most rediculous way to grow cannabis. youll never see its potential doing it that way. a plant will never be its best forcing it to flower like that, not to mention the huge yield losses...you can handle 5 foot plants or the total hight for room is 5 foot...inc room for light above?? wow huge pots if you do a 12/12 from seed deal., i never use more than 2 to 3 gallon. with a 3 week veg..but with clones. myself i wouldnt force any plant before its mature. im kinda stuck to help you..id like to but i wouldnt in anyways advice to run right at 12/12 or even just a couple weeks if they are beens. id say go for it if clones. i just have a real hard time to teach or help a guy to grow 100% wrong way and pass on poor grow tips or methods if i was going to give any advice or ideas here is to run them properly till mature before flowering

My suggestion would be from past trying auto is deep pots roght away, i think that not taking to ttansplant is more that they do better being able to get te tap root to the bottom right away and leave it for better growth...i found it did anyways. And i wouldnt bother with the wool if your going into soil. And for me with mo food preloaded in my spil i would begin feed when my cotylesons yellow and drop, that says its stored food is done. Om sure that bio bizz has lots in it so id say at least 3 weeks without needing food, then right to flower foods since it should be about to flower if its a real auto

Great responce to show you dont know, thats also a link to the info bud. Better than a video from remo for facts and truth. Show us a pic of a phos toxicity or a cal or potassium overload then please.