LedCherryBerry

First Journal, third grow

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Heyo,

Thanks y'all for the tips.
I'm currently trying to understand how to Collect runoff in the first place. Wasting it is another thing i am not considering atm (i can't come down with 5 litres of runoff like it came from the roof hehehehe), so i guess i'll just dump it in the toilet. 
I already collect rain water, and mix it with a compost tea i do each month (or each time it rains), but i use this water ONLY for my greenhouse (where i grow peppers and tomatoes), not my grow room.
Since i am a metalworker i have access to a good amount of resources, but i am not trained enough to craft a "saucer" (if that's what you call underpots) that fits a rectangular area of 56x52 cm, while also being able to be liftable easily, and easy to clean.
I'll need the whole weekend to figure out a way to collect it, i am thinking of half-sized and connected rectangular saucers (much less heavy to lift, easier to remove and clean). 

This afternoon, the pictures of the "coloured" leaves i think i am seeing.
Cheers!

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Hi @LedCherryBerry,

Here are two ways I catch run-off. 

The first is with a hole in the saucer that the pot, which is on stilts, rests in.  When watering I raise the saucer with some wood so I can put something underneath the hole in the saucer to catch the run-off.  

 

The other photo is of a standard plastic clothes-under-the-bed tidy.  Same again regarding collecting run-off from hole.  I think this would be your best option if you can find/fashion a 56cm x 52cm tray (buy or make one out of metal) with a hole in it, you could rest your grill on it and collect the run off from underneath the hole (perhaps the tray on some stilts as well).
 
Not sure if you read the Faraway Tree as a kid, but I'm pretty sure Dame Wash-a-lot used to just chuck her run-off away from a great height. :)

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Heyo,

Thank you shaggy for your kind and detailed answer.
I don't have the physical space to implement such a technique, but i'll keep it in mind for future grows :3

Anyway, i took a picture of the Leaf Colour i was talking about in the previous posts.
I'm sorry about the quality, it's kinda hard to image something that isn't wider than half a millimiter :D

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As you can see, on her leaf sides she's developing this blood-red / purple-ish tint, and the leaf body is turning yellow.
The plant is 95% healthy, so i'm assuming this is from genetics.

She is also foxtailing a bit, i'll need to decrease (somehow) the temperature inside (it reaches 31° with lights on).

I'll water S2 today, and start feeding the cal-mag.
Cheers!

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S2 received a 1ML/LT cal-mag, 2 LT of water instead of 3. 
Runoff was 25% anyway, and it measured 6.4 PH.

I figured out 2 ways of collecting RO water.
One is handcrafted, the other one is very simple.
First method i took a square 43x43 and flat piece of wood (7mm thickness) and cut it in 4 triangles (not squares).
Then i took another 4 pieces of wood, approx 50x5x5 cm, creating a square frame.
I then jointed the 4 triangles to the frame, a bit inclined towards the floor. 
My friends like to call me the "duct tape king", and for a reason.
I discovered that american duct tape makes WONDERS. So, i jointed the 4 triangles, and the frame, with duct tape. 
In the middle, i cut a hole of approx 10mm. Underneath i then place a Saucer (Yes, i discovered thanks to you guys how they are called hahahah) to collect ALL PLANTS RUNOFF. The saucer underneath is 40cm in diameter.

Second way: leave the original saucers in place, caring to positioning them. 
It is the most rudimental tech, but hey, it works better than the first one (that took casually 3-4 hours to make).

So i guess Occam's razor hahahahaha

Anyway, i wanted to ask @Jose.gh or @Cannabissapean if there is a "offtopic" section in this forum. I'd love sometimes to share my findings regarding music, but feel bad about posting in this grow journal: it is not the right thing to do. I'd feel like spamming heheh 

So, as always, BIG UPS for YOU GUYS. 
This forum is the proof that if people cooperate, we can evolve and advance. It is also the most, most friendly place i've ever visited.
You guys ROCK!

 

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Hi led 

I know you like making things so I just wanted to show you what I have made 

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@Cannabissapean Yes, YES!
Exactly what i need in the morning, or when i come back home from work.

 

@Cindy Oh god that's so nice. You made it ALL YOURSELF?!
Damn Cindy you're a hard worker! Good job!!
I'll post some picture of the greenhouse i'm "handling", in the weekend, when i get the chance to work there.;)

Today's going to be the day i build a custom drier box. 
I'll need to hide it somewhere, only to aerate a few hours at night, so i'll need to be relatively small..
I'll figure this out :D

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1 hour ago, LedCherryBerry said:

@Cannabissapean Yes, YES!
Exactly what i need in the morning, or when i come back home from work.

 

@Cindy Oh god that's so nice. You made it ALL YOURSELF?!
Damn Cindy you're a hard worker! Good job!!
I'll post some picture of the greenhouse i'm "handling", in the weekend, when i get the chance to work there.;)

Today's going to be the day i build a custom drier box. 
I'll need to hide it somewhere, only to aerate a few hours at night, so i'll need to be relatively small..
I'll figure this out :D

Yes I made all on my own and didn’t break a nail 😝 

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59 minutes ago, ShaggyGrower said:

@LedCherryBerry Not many use Occam's Razor.  Not sure how I'd survive with out Occam and Duct tape. :)


Don't ask me why or how did my neurons cooperate to pull out Occam's razor. I didn't even study it.

Duct tape on the other hand.. Is a bliss.
My greenhouse stands thanks mainly to duct tape hahahaha

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Heyo,

Smelly update.
Just checked on the girls, and wanted to touch the buds to smell the actual resin on the buds.
Just by barely touching with a finger S2, she smells like a pound of peaches. 
S3 instead, pulled out from the tent smells like fucking grass.
BUT, i squeezed a bit a small flower. She smells like lime. Not lemon, it has a clear lime scent. 
I wonder how she'll look like in a week.

I also realized i've entered last week of flowering for S2, before entering the "harvest range" (another 2 weeks of flowering).
I am quite curious to find out what she tastes like, but am also quite uncertain of when cutting it. 
I have no scopes to look at the resin, i usually look at them and decide what to cut, and what not. 
But S2 keeps growing and pumping the buds. She doubled her bud thickness in less than 10 days!!
Also she keeps putting out both red and white pistils, like if she understood there are no seasons where she's growing.

No seasons.. Uhmm...
I wonder how weed would grow on tidally locked planets!

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Little recap of what i've understood so far, so everyone reading INCLUDING ME has a clear view of what's going on in the kitchen.
I'm losing my mind a bit.


Things i learned for a SOIL GROW

- PH is super important. DON'T FUCK WITH IT, and respect schedules :3

- Drainage is also very important. Square and round pots, with flat floors, are BAD at draining. No matter how many holes you do on them, they keep sucking at their best.

- Drainage should be done with perlite, or similar products. Use Clay Pebbles ONLY AND IF their PH is around 6.5, and only if you can't find Perlite. It is true that clay pebbles drain, but thet also retain SOME water. I figured out that they can also retain nutrients, so that can cause a nute block, or lead to a PH issue. 

- Time schedule. BUY THE F*****G TIMERS! Don't rely on you waking up AS I DO. Either way, i follow the schedule with alarms.

- Light schedule. This is where things got interesting for me. Most of us use single lamps, with some extra cfl here and there. I use 8 led lights (4 x 35W 6500K; 4 x 45W full spectrum), and can regulate each lamp height, in an area of about 56x58x154cm (Yes, i fucked up building my grow box LOL).

- Airflow is necessary, but can be catastrophic. Airflow needs to be uniform, if you buy a 130m3 extractor, make sure you buy 2 of those, for intake and extraction, indeed. Different extractors will only cause trouble. Make sure to have also 2 fans pointing at your buds: you don't want all the humid and hot air stagnate around them, or mold and other funky and fuzzy shit will appear.

- Saucers. Oh, boy. Saucers are the worst, worst thing we could ever imagine to craft. They're flat, they're really hard to handle if they're, like, 1/3 full, and you'll STILL END UP SPILLING SOME ON THE FLOOR. Every-single-goddamn-time. This is gonna be a guide-in-a-guide.
How to resolve the saucer issue (in my case):
. Elevate the pots to a height of approx 30cm, with a self-standing net. 
. Place a square 54x54 tray underneath the net, to a height of approx 25cm. The tray also needs to be self-standing, and handcrafted. It needs to be inclined to some degree, so the water can flow to its center. In the middle, make a hole of 1cm in diameter.
. Under the hole, place a GODDAMN BUCKET
. Proceed watering.

- PESTS. Never give up on them. They WILL come back. Don't expect an easy victory, they're going to laugh at your hard work. If you have the chance, clean your enviroment like a mad man (or ma'am), and make very sure you've disinfected your soil. 
I didn't. They noticed. I didn't notice them. They thrived. I suffered. I fought hard, and at last.. They're still here, but in greatly reduced numbers, and much, much more stupid. 
Neem oil fucks the shit out of their brains. Spider mites wander around the leaves, without leaving webs, eggs, or other things. Sometimes they stop, then start walking again, then stop, but never bite. 
But neem oil doesn't kill them all. There are TONS of pesticides that do a better job in far less days.
 


- And, at last, don't write updates when you had a bad day, or you're high, or both. This is what you'll end up with.


What i'm going to do with this grow:

- I've set S2 Harvest day at 18, or 25 November. 
- I'm going to change the feeding schedule for both plants, starting from now:
. S2 will only receive water from now until harvest day. I want to be extra-sure that all the nutes have been flushed out before harvesting. Don't want my buds to taste too chemical.
. S3 is going to have 2 weeks of low-strenght-flushing with water and very diluted cal-mag (i'll try to ajust this to approx. 0.25ML/LT), in preparation for the BioBizz Heaven (which should come around 18 November). I heard it is a good product that helps to eliminate toxins accumulated during stress periods, and OH BOY did i stress those girls. I'll then feed her regularly, but add the heaven once every 2 feedings. 
. S3 is set to be harvested 20 December, but she is looking so bad i'm having doubts she will survive the growth. She doesn't smell good at all, but if you touch her she does really smell of citrus. Weird, weird plant.

What i think i'm going to harvest:

- S2 will approximately weigh 20 grams dry, but she'll be the most potent among the 2. 
- S3 will approximately weigh 35 grams dry, if she survives this bad phase.

What will i do after this grow:

- I'll NUKE the place with everything. Alcohol, pesticides, cats, flamethrowers.. Whatever it takes to get rid of the infesting species that live in my room, without paying the rent!
- I saved myself 30ish seeds from different weeds i bought while growing. Some of them have their own bag, because they came from really, really good tasting weeds.
I am going to try to plant 2 reallygoodtastingweed seeds, and 2 mehnotsobadweed seeds.
For a comparison, S2 came from a weed that tasted badly, but kept you high for hours. What i think is that it was either harvested too early, or cured very, very badly.
S3 came instead from a good tasting weed, but i don't think i've ever had so many problems with one plant in my lifetime as with her. Maybe i forgot something in the way, but i've got to say i've also been extremely unlucky with pests.
- I will choose the best looking out of the 4.
- Meanwhile, i'll buy a pack of *any* indica seeds. I need them to be Low, but capable of melting your wires.
- I'll germinate 3 of them, and see what i can get out of those 4 plants.


Tomorrow i'll start the new schedule, and post some pictures.
Cheers!

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Loving the way you put things 

yours cindy x

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Love the report, theres a lot of truth in there.

peace

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Hey'all,

Sorry about the delayed update.
Yesterday ended up being a too-busy day, and managed to get back only to switch the lights off.
Below some pictrues.
S2:

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Note how the colour is spreading on the leaf. 
She smells like a fruit candy, or something related to bubblegum. 

S3:

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I'm sorry about the quality of this picture. I shot it 3 different times in different angles, but managed to get all them 3 out of focus. I'm a genius.
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One of the main colas of S3. She smells like Citrus, so i guess she's related to hazes..?

And a little Extra:
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My watermelon is STILL ALIVE!
Yay!

See you in 3-4 days. 
Peace!

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4 minutes ago, LedCherryBerry said:

... and managed to get back only to switch the lights off.

 

 

Does that mean you still don't have all your scheduled processes on timers?

 

If not, you're gonna regret it one of these days when you discover that you have accidentally reversed a blomming plant back into Vegg modus by forgetting to turn off a lamp for a day or two.  Or also not good, when you open your flowering tent a couple days after a similar event to discover that one of your females suddenly turned hermie from the light confusion stress, sprang balls and pollinated your entire tent of females.

 

Both of those accidents have happened to me before.

 

I will admit however, that these accidents have also happened to me AFTER having everything on timers. 

There is that little timer-bypass-switch on the timer.  If I have to perform an emergency cleaning or pest-control or emergency feeding or something just minutes before the lights are due to come on or just when the lights are about to go off, I sometimes flip that darned bypass switch.  I finish my job and then, because I am stoned or just plain stupid, I forget to flip the switch back to timer modus.  Such a mistake is often not caught until 24 hours later, or worse, at the next feeding 3 or 4 days later. 

 

I guess what I need to do is to make a tag to hang on the zipper of the tent "TIMER SWITCH", so that I cannot forget about the bypass switch.

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Hey! Howyadoin'?

I'm going to buy a bunch of stuff tonight, if conditions permit, including:
- Timers, probably 3 or 4.
- PH up and down
- BioBizz Heaven
- A 50x50 square saucer (because i have 4 28x28 that don't fit)
- BioBizz Leaf Coat (for future girls)
- A 5L watering can for preparing the solution (i've been using a 1L bottle for a total of 17 liters of soil. Bit of a pain).

I know about the time schedule. I've also experienced similar issues: in the first grow i suffered an outage. The babe stayed in total darkness for 36 hours furing the first 4 weeks of blooming. She didn't suffer much, except she looked very sad for 2-3 days. I was lucky, and it didn't produce seeds. Okay, maybe 2 or 3 in 130g.
And don't expect me to say i'm perfect: I've ALREADY fucked up 4-5 times, but not in a way to compromise the grow. Sometimes i forget to turn them off, but they're right behind me. I've never missed a switch ON, but i've missed some OFF of about 30m to 1h. I don't think it's a big deal, but i guess if i was working, and couldn't get out for at least another hour after my turn ended, i'd be kind of pissed.

I guess i'll have to wait another week before getting my hands on the things that will save me from total paranoia.

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Unexpected periods of darkness are usually not a problem, so long as it's not more than about 4 days.

But 4 hours undesired "lights on" can be enough to seriously diminish yield, especially if it occurs in early flowering.

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Hey man,
Wanted to answer you this morning but had to run earlier due to an inconvenient at the work place.

Thank you for always giving me tips and hints. 
My mind is becoming a post-it encyclopedia.
I have the small problem i cannot switch on 160w+160w alltogether, so placing only 2 timers wont do the trick for me.
I need my lights to switch on one by one, so that on the counter it seems like people is waking up, instead of starting the grow room.
That's my big issue with timers. I cannot set 8 individual timers either, i'm missing 6 electric sockets.

I guess in my next run i'll start using only 160 watts, turning on 80 then other 80.
I'll figure out how to add the other watts later. 
I really don't want to get caught because of electricity bills.. :D

I also wanted to say that S2 is nearing her last days. I've taken off a small, small flower from the lowest branches, waited 36 hours, and then smoked it.
It came out as a 0.1g, but MAN she can make herself heard. 
Taste is sweet, almost like chewing a lemon-strayberry candy. 
It is also pretty strong. I rolled a tinyjoint (almost a cig) but left me high for about 2 hours or so. 

I knew she was going to blast me.

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Hey'all,

Sorry for the double posting.
Forgot to share with y'all the schedule.
 

14 novembre BLOOM   S2 S3
15 novembre BLOOM 11   1/3 Water + Cal-Mag 0.5ML/LT
16 novembre BLOOM      
17 novembre BLOOM   1/3 Water  
18 novembre BLOOM      
19 novembre BLOOM     1/3 Water + Cal-Mag 0.5ML/LT
20 novembre BLOOM      
21 novembre BLOOM      
22 novembre BLOOM 12    
23 novembre BLOOM   1/3 Water 1/3 Water+ BBG 1ML/LT + BBB 1ML/LT
24 novembre BLOOM      
25 novembre BLOOM      
26 novembre BLOOM      
27 novembre BLOOM     1/3 Water
28 novembre BLOOM      
29 novembre BLOOM 13 1/3 Water  
30 novembre BLOOM      
1 dicembre BLOOM     1/3 Water + Cal-Mag 0.5ML/LT
2 dicembre BLOOM      
3 dicembre BLOOM      
4 dicembre BLOOM      
5 dicembre BLOOM     1/3 Water
6 dicembre BLOOM 14    
7 dicembre BLOOM      
8 dicembre BLOOM      
9 dicembre BLOOM     1/3 Acqua + BBG 1ML/LT + BBB 1ML/LT
10 dicembre BLOOM      
11 dicembre BLOOM      
12 dicembre BLOOM      
13 dicembre BLOOM 15   1/3 Water
14 dicembre BLOOM      
15 dicembre BLOOM      
16 dicembre BLOOM      
17 dicembre BLOOM     ½ Water
18 dicembre BLOOM      
19 dicembre BLOOM      
20 dicembre HARVEST 16    

 

See y'all tomorrow with S3 pictures.

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So, so sorry for not delivering the update on time.
I've been very busy in these days: my depression isn't going anywhere, had so many things to do at work, and a few issues to resolve left me barely with the time to feed them, and shut the shack off.

Anyway, here i am, in a midst of happiness and sadness.
I'll Harvest S2 tomorrow, and prepare her today (defoliage).
Beneath, some pictures of the girls.

S2:
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Structure is 27 cm tall. She is the smallest plant from seed i've ever grown to harvest. Incredible.
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I've decided to take these pictures without the flash. In this way, her natural colours are more visible.
She is purplish, and her smell has changed from candy-sweet to almost a grape-wine scent. I believe she's ready.

S3:
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Her deficiency doesn't seem to stop. I have the small doubt i haven't transplanted her enough times, and now she's suffering for this reason.
Only problem is that i cannot transplant her now, i'd risk seeds and too much overall stress.

I've taken pictures in this angle, so you can see the plant structure. She is 41cm tall.

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Her main bud.
This time the picture has the flash, i wanted to highlight the compactness of this nugget (all the other nuggets are similar), and the incredible amount of pistils she's spitting out. She's literally "spitting out the demons" hehehe.

I'll see you this evening, and tomorrow, when S2 Harvest day comes.
Peace!

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Good luck with the harvest tomorrow, @LedCherryBerry. I too shall be harvesting my bagseed plants tomorrow, 7 days since their last flush/water.  They've taken quite a while to dry out, likely because of the lackage of leaves to transpire/utilize water, and the non-use of my dehumidifier for the last week to keep temps down.

Don't worry, be happy (easier said than done, I know): 

 

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15 minutes ago, Cindy said:

Hi 

how did your harvest go 

Hey Cindy,
Still didn't harvest. I've removed the yellow fan leaves to allow some more light until tomorrow evening.
I'll harvest her around 6-7 pm, when she'd normally go to sleep.
I've removed a flower from her yesterday, and dried it.
I've rolled it, and i'm still trying to come back to Earth. What the fuck have i grown..

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