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10/02/2018 Last day Dragon Force for Nebula & DD
DD 12.6kg  1.4l  6.25ph  2480ppm  24.2c  ml-12%HP in,  ph  ppm  c l out  14.0kg wet   - OK Day 5 of Dragon
Nebula 13.4kg  0.6l  6.25ph  2480ppm  24.2c  ml-12%HP in,  ph  ppm  c l out  14.0kg wet   - OK Day 5 of Dragon
JW 13.9kg  1.1l  6.25ph  2480ppm  24.2c  ml-12%HP in,  ph  ppm  c l out  15.0kg wet   - OK Day 3 of Dragon
IC 13.4kg  0.6l  6.25ph  2480ppm  24.2c  ml-12%HP in,  ph  ppm  c l out  14.0kg wet   - OK Day 0 of Dragon
SS 12.7kg  1.2l  6.25ph  2480ppm  24.2c  ml-12%HP in,  ph  ppm  c l out  13.7kg wet   - OK Day 1 of Dragon
M 3.7kg (3.6kg is base dry weight just out of the bag, so perhaps 3.5kg is realy dry weight)
3 3.7kg (3.6kg is base dry weight)
5 800g

It's day 5 of 5 for the use of Dragon Force with DD & Nebula.  When they get very dry (10-11kg, ~2-3 days), I shall be leaching/flushing with ~30l for each pot (a pot holds ~ 10l of liquid, so a x3 flush). When dry again, it's just 125ppm of rain water with a  little calmag.  Still deciding whether to do anything special at the end such as cold/ice water mega flushes, 48 hours of darkness, etc.

Not feeding/watering as I used to, ie, to get run off. Just giving a litre or so from near the bottom of the weigh range so they're pretty dry when they receive the ~EC1.0 of nutes and slurp them up (hopefully).

 

The nearer I get to harvest, well, deciding when it's two weeks to go, the more nervous I get - not wanting to harvest too early.

 

Happy Growing!

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@ShaggyGrower

hi shaggy thats must be a lot of work with all that water goed luck for your harvest 

:rofl:

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A wizz around my tent:

 

 

 

Happy Growing!

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Harvested a stem of Ice Cream and did a light wet trim (yes @slimjim, much easier than when dry). IC has three pairs of side shoots, all the others have four.  This is one of the stems from the bottom pair.

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34.55g wet with stalk, trimmed (not including plastic tray obviously). Will be interesting to see what the buds vs stalks weigh dried:

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Bud shot (Gave it a squeeze and there was VERY LITTLE GIVE.  I'm thinking that is a good thing.  My last grow was a little airy.  These are like rocks, and I get where the name 'nugget' came from now.:

 

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Improvised drying area (a bit of broken-stem Nebula at the back):

 

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Happy Growing & Smoking!

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On 07/11/2017 at 10:36 AM, ShaggyGrower said:

Decided to introduce DD & Nebula (and JW) to lollypopping.  I've taken of their cotyledons (crispy anyway), their first single leaf & side shoot, and their first three leaf. 

 

The lowest item left on them are side shoots (which are going great) that went with the removed three-leaf.  I've taken the first three-fingered leaves off the side shoots as well. 

 

I've LST'd those side shoots as well on DD & Nebula.  Early I know to trim, but they seem mega healthy so I figure they can take it.

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bonjour,

bien vu les fils de fer je vais faire sa aussi

 

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17 hours ago, ShaggyGrower said:

34.55g wet with stalk, trimmed (not including plastic tray obviously). Will be interesting to see what the buds vs stalks weigh dried:

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Bud shot (Gave it a squeeze and there was VERY LITTLE GIVE.  I'm thinking that is a good thing.  My last grow was a little airy.  These are like rocks, and I get where the name 'nugget' came from now

 

Harvest time is always nice but I think in this case the outcome of the "buds vs stalks" is very clear. That is one chunky stalk but it has buds and popcorn buds.

 

Little point in weight wet though full of stalks because it will disappoint. Looking at that stalk and stems at 34.5g wet, it will lose around 75% in moisture bringing it to approx 8.6g, then that chunky stalk and stems need to be thrown leaving it less than 4g max in my opinion.

 

I find it better to just cut the top main colas, leaving the lower buds which are under developed (such as the bud clusters and popcorn below the 2 main clusters on your picture) to gain more light exposure for a week of so fill out and "ripen" so to speak with the shading of the higher buds which have already been chopped.

 

With all the main top colas already cut, simply trim them wet and hang for 5 to 7 days at 65c - 68c / < 40% RH, then cut form the stalks/stems and into brown paper bags at 50c to 60c if possible for as long as you want really. No real need in my opinion for jars but I do use them for buds that has been in brown bags for at least 3 months.

 

As for weighing, I always do it when dry now without stalks/stems, only material you intend to use for its purpose, because it does disappoint I guess and it is a fact we must accept. Taking 75% away in moisture is a massive hit so no need for further disappointment by weighing the stalks/stems too which have to be taken away from the final haul.

 

When it comes to harvesting the lower buds it is just a case of rinse and repeat.

 

 

 

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Hi @french mango, Bon chance!! :clapping:

@I'm Sal, I'm probably on my weighing too much thingy.  I figured 90% of the total would be left in bud (a guess), so I guessed ~ 3.5g so not far off your guess.  Weighed it this morning and it's 23.5g, so that's quite a bit lost in ~16 hours (ambient room temperature in that cardboard box 68-70, and I just now have some moisture sucking stuff in there as well to keep the humidity low). 

I'm finding harvest time both exciting and stressful.  Exciting because they're done/nearly done, stressful as I don't want to cut them too soon/late and bugger up drying/curing. And then there's the trimming.  I shall try not to rush the trimming, or anything.

 

It's day 58 of flowering for all of them (as I think their flowers showed very close together, ~18/Dec).

 

DD 63-70 days; Nebula -65 days; JW  60 days; IC 55-60 days; SS 56-63 days.

 

I think I delayed them all a little with a calcium lockout, hence my leaving them a little longer, and the trichomes still not showing many amber at all.

 

I'll prepare my drying boxes then go in for a main cola chop when I see a few more amber trichomes!  Thanks!

 

Happy Growing!

 

 

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7 minutes ago, ShaggyGrower said:

Hi @french mango, Bon chance!! :clapping:

@I'm Sal, I'm probably on my weighing too much thingy.  I figured 90% of the total would be left in bud (a guess), so I guessed ~ 3.5g so not far off your guess.  Weighed it this morning and it's 23.5g, so that's quite a bit lost in ~16 hours (ambient room temperature in that cardboard box 68-70, and I just now have some moisture sucking stuff in there as well to keep the humidity low). 

I'm finding harvest time both exciting and stressful.  Exciting because they're done/nearly done, stressful as I don't want to cut them too soon/late and bugger up drying/curing. And then there's the trimming.  I shall try not to rush the trimming, or anything.

 

It's day 58 of flowering for all of them (as I think their flowers showed very close together, ~18/Dec).

 

DD 63-70 days; Nebula -65 days; JW  60 days; IC 55-60 days; SS 56-63 days.

 

I think I delayed them all a little with a calcium lockout, hence my leaving them a little longer, and the trichomes still not showing many amber at all.

 

I'll prepare my drying boxes then go in for a main cola chop when I see a few more amber trichomes!  Thanks!

 

Happy Growing!

 

 

 

58 days flowering with no amber. Expecting too much too soon.

 

Step away from the scissors and enjoy the bits you have chopped in you eagerness.

 

Not even read your plant specs but I would safely say they need another week or two at the very least.

 

Let the amber come if you are not desperate for a smoke and the best comes to those that wait.

 

Well, that's what I would do. Less is more remember and this concerns eagerness vs satisfaction.

 

 

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Just now, ShaggyGrower said:

OK I will wait, @I'm Sal

 

Just a suggestion and I am sure you will research the hell out of it.

 

Happy growing as you say.

 

:)

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Trichome shot from a calyxe cut from the top of Nebula:

 

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Yup, still a ways to go yet.

 

Happy Growing!

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Dutch Dragon showing some nice colours (photo taken with lights off and just the camera flash).

 

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Happy Growing!

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they look very good shag the calyxe are good inflate how long to the harvest ?

 

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Just now, g22 said:

they look very good shag the calyxe are good inflate how long to the harvest ?

 

 

Thanks @g22

 

Flowering numbers are:

 

DD 63-70 days
Nebula 60-65 days
JW 60 days
IC 55-60 days
SS 56-63 days

 

So JW is one day overdue. However, I'm pretty sure because of my treatment of them all with nute burn / nute lockout, they are delayed slightly.  Tried to find answers on the internet regarding if a lockout of, say two weeks in flowering, extends the time to flower by ~ two weeks, or whether it's not as simple as that.

 

I'm looking at trichomes, leaf/pistil colour, etc.

 

Below is the Ice Cream bud all dried and ready for a light curing.

 

Shtems & leavsh & all  (best Dutch accent):

 

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Happy Growing & Smoking!

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Day 62 of Flowering.

 

Camera flash only as lights came on this morning.  Colouring up nicely.

 

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Top left: DD; top right: Sensi Star; middle: Nebula; bottom left: Ice Cream: bottom right: Jacky White.

 

Nebula is on drying-out-countdown-to-be-cut.  Monday or Tuesday.

 

Happy Growing!

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Wonderfull color in your box dude!

 

Thats the good way on flushing for a good clean smoke!

 

Have a nice week!

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Tent redesign this morning in preparation for drying.

 

Had a look through the garage for stuff to bodge with and found some old wine boxes and  large whiteboard.  Boxes are the right size to be able to leave enough space between lights and canopy tops.

 

Boxes all the same height.  I should get all my crop in those:

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Whiteboard makes it all nice and flat, and load-shares the weight:

 

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And plants go on top:

 

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And DD the last to slot in (the driest at 11.6kg) so I need access to water, and she's got the longest flowering (63-70 days, we're on Day 63 today):

 

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Cut a stem out of the middle of Nebula today (13.6kg) to give her some space in the middle, and to give me some Nebula bud to smoke this weekend when there's likely going to be a lot of work harvesting:

 

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Happy Growing & Smoking!

 

 

 

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