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Trying something different with Bi.  Instead of defoliating, I'm leaf tucking where I can.  Hopefully this will shock/delay the plant less.

 

The middle main stem fan leaves are quite large.  I've tucked, with plant clips, those four pairs (8 very large leaves) of those large leaves to a stem three nodes down.

 

Light can penetrate better, and the leaf is still attached to the plant so that plant can extract nutrients / dump more toxins in it, and frankly, they get some light.

 

Seems to me that cannabis plants try to get toxins/waste out of their roots first, and when they can't they dump them in the oldest leaves which are the main stem fan leaves (not necessarily the lowest leaves on the plant).  While those leaves can be dumped into, I don't want to remove them or the plant will start dumping in the next oldest leaves.

 

I'm pruning any 2nd tier side shoots that come off main side shoots, up to 2-3 nodes along.  I think I am going to have lots of stems, so just want cola's on the end and not much growing down below or middle of stem.

 

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Happy Growing!

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Purchased another gadget for my ladies.  An Inkbird 220V ITC-310T 6-stage Programmable Digital Temperature Controller Thermostat for Heater & Cooler, 3 Pins UK Plug ,Dual Relays.

 

In short, it has a temperature probe and I can set a base temp (78f); set a high fluctuation (2f) and a low fluctuation (4f). 

The gadget then turns on the cooling socket when temp gets to 80f and turns on the heating socket when temps hit 76f.

 

There are timers as well, so I will get more detailed with it later.

 

I have my extractor fan plugged into the cooling, and the 135rw LED into the heating.

 

It's been working very well over the last day & night, and makes such a difference to humidity levels and the lowering of some of the weight off my shoulders.

 

Happy (somewhat-automated) Growing!

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A couple of the pruned stems have grown roots.

 

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Happy Cloning!

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M=80[11], 3=79[11], Tri=72[12], Bi=73[15]. (large number = days since breaking soil; [days since 12/12 flip].

Pistels galore.  All plants stretching and flowering and looking well. 

 

The Inkbird is really helping automate stuff.  Temps <81 >75 day and humidity 35-50%, so perfect.

 

Flushed M and 3 yesterday, M lost a lot more weight than 3 so must have less media in.  Took lots of lower and internal small flowers off 3. Have left M be, to compare. Bi I have fed 3l of their own run off (rain watered down to 400ppm), Tri 2l.  Their run off is watered down to 300ppm for foliar spray as well - thrice a day they get a shower (sometimes with nute ro water [300ppm], alternating with rain water at 30ppm to give the leaves a wash) and this helps with humidity.  A closed loop when it comes to nutes.

 

A little detail of their run off that I'm re-using.  I think it has a lot of dissolved PK in it, which is why I am reusing it.  It has other stuff in there which is not soluble, so for the folair spray I let it sit for a few days then pour very carefully, so as not to mix the undissolvables [which sit at the bottom]with the dissolvables - also means the sprayer does not get clogged with undissolvables.

A few signs of burn but only very slowly getting worse if at all, but not a worry as she'll get to a time where the nutes are not burning once she uses enough up.

 

M &  3 have surprised by developing flowers faster than Bi & Tri.  They might all actually finish at the same time (1/1/18).

 

Bi is 61cm, Tri 60cm, M  41cm, 3 40cm. 

6 days ago, Bi was 49cm; Tri was 47cm; M was 29 cm, and 3 was 27cm. 

Quite some growth!!

 

No additional defoliation required (yet) as the intermodal spacing I created means there's no overlapping of many leaves.  Lots of air in there as you can see in the photo's.  This means no shock to the plants from a heavy pruning/defoliation, ergo hopefully a happier and more productive plant(s).

 

M:

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3.

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Tri.

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Bi.

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Happy Growing!

 

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Checking clone attempts for roots, and another (the 4th) has grown roots which can be seen easily through the clear glass sprouting jars I use:

 

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Add some 50/50 Perlite & Canna Coco, and place glass jar in pot to get hight right:

 

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I pry the sponge out of the glass jar with a syringe needle:

 

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Works a treat:

 

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Hold plant by stem and put in middle of new pot and drizzle the media around, pressing around the outside gently. 

Weight it, it's 126g, so I water with rain water up to 150g (24ml):

 

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Voila - a cloned White Rhino.

 

Happy Growing & Cloning!

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Everything looks great here, a flowering going on with rocky bud formation :)

I like the way you make clones, with glass containers :) It's perfect to see where the roots come from (I'll experience my next time).

Greetings! 

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Hi @Jose.gh,

Thanks.  Those little jars are preserve jars (jam, marmalade) you sometimes get in hotels.  A perfect fit for RootIt! sponges.

 

Tri seems the best of them at the moment.  She's 66cm tall and very little sign of any excess/deficiency.  She drinks a lot.  No need to defoliate or even leaf tuck with her, yet.  Gave her 4l of diluted (to 480ppm) old run off today. Run off was 1800ppm!

Bi has some burning on lower & middle stem fan leaf tips and down the spikey side of the leaves.  She does not drink very much.  Those tucked leaves are still alive.

M drinks a lot, compared to 3.  She got a 1l of 420ppm diluted run off.

7 out of 9 clone attempts have grown roots.  Not sure what I'm going to do with them.  Will likely wait until May and then dot them outside for the summer in various spots local to me.  There's one old knook in an oak tree I fancy putting one in :) 

 

Happy Growing!
 

 

 

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100% success rate on rooting clones, with the last one showing a root so will go into a 0.5l pot in a bit.

 

Not sure if the cloning success was down to Shogun Katana Roots, or some £1 Poundland rooting powder (Doff Natural Rooting Powder), or something else.

 

The family under HPS:

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With just camera flash:

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Happy Growing!

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White Rhino clones go into the wild.  WRC1 transferred to 2l pot.  She has grown great roots in 10 days (8th April photo of her up above when still in her glass jar).

 

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Meanwhile, back in the tent, the buds on all 4 plants are developing nicely with great spacing to grow into.  This is M:

 

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Tri was flushed yesterday and Bi today with 30ppm Rain Water ~ 30l each.  Run off was 1500ppm & 2050ppm respectively.  That will be kept to water her with (watered down) over the next few weeks.  M & 3 getting watered with diluted run off at 450ppm.  Bi showing some burn (not surprising with that 4.1EC run off), the others are great from top to bottom. 

 

As an aside, Tri has the best structure of any plant I've thus far grown.  It has three stems coming out of each node on the main stem, and each of those stems shoots out two stems.  The tri-ness stops about 2/3 of the way up the plant.  The Tri-ness of it makes defoliation not necessary as it's stems grows into gaps rather than underneath the fan leaf above which happens in normal Bi-plants.  I have taken a cutting, in flower, and am trying to reveg that into a clone.  I wonder whether it will turn tri or stay bi.  I'd love to create a stable (lets coin it) "White Trhino" line for GHS.

 

Happy Growing!

 

 

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Happy 420 everyone!

Today, I was up at 4.20am planting my clones in the wild.  Let's see if they survive & thrive over the summer.

 

Happy Guerrilla Growing!

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3's flower on F Day 22:

 

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Happy Growing!

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Bi's cola on Day 27 since flipping to 12/12 :

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She has the longest cola at the moment at ~10 inches.

 

Happy Growing!

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Start of week five of flowering (Day 29 for Bi and Day 26 for Tri [Day 25 for M & 3]).

Tri and Bi have had three internodes of very large fan leaves in the middle of the plant(s) removed to enable more light to penetrate.  Tri had 9 of these removed, Bi 6.

 

M has a few of her oldest leafs yellowing.  3 has just been flushed with 800ppm/6.4ph of watered down run-off.  That run off was 1120ppm./7.0ph

 

All plants looking nice (photo's to follow when they wake up), and even the burn on Bi now has sharp delineation between the burn and the green growth, so fixed imv.

 

I'm changing their day cycle.  We've had some hot weather here, which is due to change soon, but it made me think about May's weather and the temps in my tent.

 

So, I am moving their day start/finish forward by and hour a day.  It's currently at 11am to 11pm (lights on) from 7am/7pm.  I will stop when it gets to 6pm to 6am so their day is my night and temps can be lowered more easily should there be another really hot spell.  So they've been getting 13hrs of light since I've been doing this, and there's another 7 days of this.  Hopefully they will not re-veg and just use the extra hour to grow more bud :)

 

Speaking of re-veging, the flowered stem I took of Tri had roots showing through the sponge today, so it's gone into a 0.5l pot.  Fingers crossed she re-veg's Tri and not Bi.

 

The clones that are in the wild, in various spots, experienced 3.8c last night.  It's going to be colder the next week or so, so it will be interesting to see if they can survive or they die.

 

Pistels/colas are developing nicely. 

 

Here's Bi at 1.03m from the floor (79cm tip to media). You can see the space the light has to reach the lower buds sites.:

 

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Here's the main cola:

 

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Happy Growing!

 

 

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These tails look very interesting, when they form the whole tail when they get fat it will be fascinating :)

If, at low temperatures, the clones (outside) usually stop growing... but if the day is warm, there may be no problems.

Everything looks great, good job!

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Thanks @Jose.gh

 

Here's a vid to see better perhaps:
 

 

 

Happy Growing!

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Tri's top (go 'Full Size' for more detail):

 

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Collage of Tri's top and Bi's top and main cola:

 

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Happy Growing!

 

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The family today (Day 33[Bi] to 29 of flowering):

 

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Tri:

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Bi:

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M:

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3:

 

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Their daylight now starts at 3pm.  Just a few more shuffles to go before I decide on either a 6 or 7pm start for them, to cope with any hot days that may come before the 1/6/18 harvest deadline.

 

All plants are just being fed Bi & Tri's slurry, ie, their run off, diluted down to a respectable ppm. 

 

Remember, Tri and Bi where the only ones to be given BioBloom.  It's remarkable that their run off (which I suspect is packed with soluble PK) is feeding those plants and two others (M & 3) as there are no signs of deficiencies.

 

Happy Growing!

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Happy May Day everyone.

 

Today is one month to go until the end of the comp and my harvest date (1/6/18).

 

Here's Tri's top on Day 100 since sprouting (Day 33 of flowering).

 

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I gave Tri a very large defoliation last night  and now LOTS of light at the bud sites that are left.

 

Tri will get a mega-flush (25l) )when she reaches 11kg (last flushed/watered 18/4).  She's currently 12.4kg, so 1.4kg of liquid to drink before the mega flush.  The run off from her last flush was 1500ppm, but she's done well and not shown signs of excess (Bi shows excess @2000ppm but it stopped getting worse a few weeks ago).  The defoliation will slow her down a bit, but stretch has stopped (81cm tall plant from media, 110 from floor including pot - in my 2m tent , so a comfortable amount of room (height) left.

 

Day and night temperatures are now 78-70, so nice a tight since I changed their day/night start.  Humidity is also easier to control.

 

Gnat flies have mostly stopped appearing, so Perlite (on top) & yellow sticky traps might finally have done their job.

 

Happy Bud-Empowering!
 

 

 

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A little update on the White Rhino clones.

 

They're all still alive and growing, despite the low temperatures. They're in a plastic box to retain  a little heat.  The probe outside shows ~3c lower than inside although last night was a bit tighter. This been good as it's been getting pretty low outside as can be see in this photo:

 

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My cat is guarding WRC1, which has been out in the open and seems very happy.  If they make it through the next couple of days, I think they have a chance to survive for a full summer of vegging.

 

Happy Cloning!

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Bud porn :)

 

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Happy Growing!

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Tri-ness:

 

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Watered 12l of rain water (30ppm @ 6.4ph, 19.8c) 3.2l run off of 690ppm.  Threw that run off away instead of reusing it.  She should get through to harvest with some 5 day aired tap water.  A little leaf tucking after that photo occurred.

 

Happy Growing!

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Day/Night temps for the White Rhino Clones:

 

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This was over the last 24 hrs.  As you can see, it was quite cold last night with the outside probe registering 1.0c.  Brrrr!  Inside the red box it was 4.6c - >4c is good I've read, so the box and the Perspex on top is holding in those extra vital degrees of heat.  Middle photo was temp at ~ 8.30am.  Last pic is max temps.  Surprising cooler during the day inside than outside the box.

One thing to note - they've not stopped growing.  I had to put another piece of wood under the Perspex to lift it up so slugs can't crawl across the Perspex and onto my plant(s).  This has happened to one (in the white box) and the middle of a plant was starting to be munched.  Fixed/caught that (removed slug and raised Perspex) early enough I think.

The plants are in a wasteland, a bit of a dell and it gets somewhat wet.

 

They'll be planted in the ground on 7th May as per the moon phases mentioned by @René Guerra Sánchez.  I've bought a new spade for the job :)  I shall be planting them in different areas, some wet, some dry, some on slopes, some in dips, just to see what happens in different areas.

 

Happy Cloning!

 

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The clones (7) went into the ground today (correction, White Rhino clone 2-7 & 1 x Dutch Kush clone planted out. WRC1 still in 2l pot as is the Tri-clone I'm trying to reveg from flower - seems to be reveging ok):

 

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Can you spot them in Dingley Dell?

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Happy Guerrilla Growing!

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The ladies are being upgraded!!

 

Here's the new tent; fans, light surround, ......

 

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So that's a move from a BAY6 1.2x1.2x2.0m to a Budbox XXL 1.2x2.4x2.0 = doubling of space.  Also, it's white inside, not silver.

 

Additionally, while the bulb and digital ballast are the same (250w/400w/600w/660w & HPS [2100k]bulb), it's now housed in a DarkStar air cooled reflector (which is MASSIVE!).  My bodged Plexiglas went all bubbly, and in addition the original reflector I had was buggered (I did not take the blue plastic off when I got it, so it burnt on - did not seem to effect yield to much though in previous harvests). It is air cooled by a huge Systemair RVK at 430m3 that sucks air in from outside the tent and dumps it outside the tent.  Got a smaller Systemair RVK at  220m3 for cold air in to go with the original Systemair RVK at 430m3 that now has a 'professional' carbon filter on it (the basic one finally gave up filtering I think, after 9 months) and is fixed with a FastClamp (whatever).
 

The ladies go into their new palace at 8pm this evening, their lights on.

 

I decided to upgrade to keep temps & humidity TIGHTLY under control for the final few weeks, which is when all the fun happens.  Also, I can dry my harvest in the propagation tent, which will be inside this tent, keeping all the smells in one place & filtered.

 

Happy Growing!

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The family in their new palace:

 

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The Resurrected:

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Bi, quite a chunky main cola:

 

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Tri - my fav:

 

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10/05/2018 - M=111[42], 3=109[42], Tri=101[43], Bi=103[46] (since sprouting [days in flower]).

 

Only very light feeding (a touch of Enhancer) with The Great Chopping (harvest) occurring three weeks tomorrow.

 

No more defoliation, just some leaf tucking, pot rotation and canopy concaving (with giant jenga bricks).

Greenhouse Feeding Enhancer for an extra boost and to try to get used all the nutrients in the media ready for flushing starting in a week or so. PPM was coming down during the last flush/water, from 2000ppm to 1350ppm.  All the others are a reasonable 500-700ppm.

 

I'll be testing my new tent setup and will keep temps within 5c day/night and humidity within 5% of target. Temps currently 78-68f. Humidity 30-45%

 

Have a fan controllers on order to dial down the fan that's cooling the Darkstar as 423m3 is a bit OTT.

 

The smell, well, I'm just sooo glad I got a new carbon filter when I did.  Perhaps it's the slightly lower temps, but smell is sooo pungent (in the tent, outside not a sniff).

It's good to see the other harvests come in.  Not sure how I'll harvest yet, ie, branch by branch or whole plant.  I've got the space for whole-plant-hanging so might give that a go.  I'll be drying as slowly as possible with temps <18c and humidity @ 55-60%.  I wanna keep those terps on.  When they get to ~65% humidity, they'll go into glass jars with Boveda packs to bring them down slowly to 62% (burping to get them there).

 

The 135w LED will go in tonight for their next day to add some extra light, but mainly for the UV/IR.

 

Happy Growing!

PS, there's a White Berry and a Dutch Kush in the same tent (just entering week 4 of flowering), so the old tent was getting a bit full, but now they all have space.

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