a microscopic bud of great expectations (small NL balkony grow)

[FragmopG 27]

Hi there,

At first: the latest grow isnt only mine a friend of me got some seeds ( seeds derived from a grow with feminised Northern Lights (dont know the strain more precise) from a friend he had some heramphro probs)and kind of screwed the beginning

,then told me about it and together we managed it to keep the plant living^^

Problem in the begining was he just germinated a few seeds whithout thinking abaut the Place on this earth we live,

it was mid february and thats like deepest winter here^^ no problem with adequat light but we had none :-)

He told me in march about one surviving plant and I was like : wtf? why did u germinate them to early just for outdoor bssss bsss bsss.

Then he showed me the plant ( I expected a thin waaay too tall toothpick construction, wrog pot etc.) and it was kind of but the thing was the plant was flowering....it was that early there were still to few daylight hours.

Pic 1

Then we asked in a growforum what to do, like flower nutrients (Hesi for Flowerin plants, back from my small aoutdoor grows back then) or for groth . 1 guy answered : Will giv u not mire than one splif...dropit...

We kept on and decided to use the little su and gave flower nutrients and basic ( Hesi super vit)

few Weeks later

Pic2+3

Looked like a lowryder^^

Then the groth rapidly changes (maybe or surely drift into groth cycle) some crippled 1--1,5 leafs appeard and The big bud started to shrink slightly so we decided to harvest^^ relay sticky situation, nice smell.

But we left the main stem ans some new crip leafs at the top ( we took also a "clone" and it actually build roots whithout any hormones added).

We got like 3g, regular dried one half and "water cured" the rest bud.

Then I took out the grow nutrients ( Hesi TNT complex + super vit), potted into 20 l and hoped for good weather ( still end march )

Survived till now

Pic 4

3 weekt ago transplanted to 35 l

Pic 6+7

Some brother/sister seeds of this Plant (The friend ;-) were grown propperly (timeing) standing a few kilometers away

and they started outing one and a half week ago, since we have mini calyxes all over the plant all the time we couldent say when to change the feeding plan. but groth changed again and she grew more twisted "budlike".

Then we changed to flowering nutrients again.

6 days ago

Pic 8

Then we bend/bond?? down a few lower branches to increase the sun yield in the middle parts.

Yesterday

Pic 9+11

This is the clone at the moment^^

Pic 2.1

I still have a few questions ;-)

What can you tell me about the genetics, are the F2 of feminised usually stable? Because her Brothers(R.I.P.) and sisters have a completely oter phaenotyp, half as old and 1.5 meters high thinner leafs not as many branches.

Is it possible to stress the clone and get seeds from eather one of then (partial pollination/sexing) because if the sise diffrences are no genetic but just a cycle hopping problem id like to continue with the (very nice tast and high^^)

Some leafs are turning yellow and then falls off, but chronologically (the oldest leafs in the "core" at first and not that much ca. 10 a week, but thats just narmal right? My other plants always turned yellow in the end before harvesting.

Rest healthy Green. pH at around 6 ; EC no idea^^

k thanks for reading

P.S.sry for grammar or whatever mistakes constantly had a D- ^^

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[Romeu9 491]

Hope this helps a bit:

http://www.kindgreenbuds.com/cannabis-grow-bible/chapter15.html

Scroll on the right part of the page, after following the link above, for the rest of the chapter 15 about breeding...

Take care

[FragmopG 27]

At first : Thanks for the link couldnt eat all at once ^^

But in my case (maybe im totally wrong and im slightly(realy;-) high) if i use the picture

the P1 generation, in this case is like crossing a purple sativa with a green indica,

in my case its a hermie which was a feminised NL (is this a really trait because of chromosome enheritage or just in a single generation??)

and this is supposed to have much of the same alleles like SS/BB or SS/bb... or not??

sorry if this is hurrbly wrong :-)

so still the questions why the oters(23 plants) are NONE like this if this could be just a cycle hopping problem or what?

big up

[lamsbread 1,369]

I agree with Tokage great story and great plants.

i'm gonna stick around and see how these babies flower

great link there too romeu9 looks like i got some serious reading to do

[FragmopG 27]

Hi guys/gals

small update:

The main plant got really bushy whithout cutting, in every pit theres a new sprout, very strong indica I suppose^^ !

The clone also developes well, got a wooden phylum.pic2.2

The lower branches lifted up because the top developes really fast so we decided to bend all the lower branches down with some strings attached to the pot (didnt want to cut some branches because of the stress since more and more white Hairs are coming)!

This was 10 days ago and the "free" middle part (pic 10/11) is now filled with new branches from the lower and upper branches. those we bond down stayed in an 90° and their tops/ ends grow staight up^^ pic13.

peace

pic2.2

pic 10

pic11

pic13

[lamsbread 1,369]

Looking good Frag.

She's looking nice 'n' healthy

good work and happy growing

[Romeu9 491]

I want to mention that seeds from hermies have tendencie to herm aswell... you will have feminized seeds with hermie tendencies.

The Plants look good!!

Keep us updated!

Take care

[FragmopG 27]

Hi guys,

Both of the plants are developing great, but first Problems appered.

Since a few days there were almost only Rain and both plants stayed really wet over a couple of days.

I spotted Brown ends of the Leafs at one side of the plant in the middle region and only 5-6 Leafs have these problem ( Pic 20,21) , is it possible that this is just due to the wet soil or does it look like a nutrient Problem (dont think so) . Rest of the plant is healthy Green, except for many purple leaf stems (but it got preatty cold here 15°C at night) and looks still not abnormal purple^^.

A nother question is when do you guys think the plant might be ready for harvest? at the end of september ? I´ll move at the first of Oktober so this date is proabably the dead line.Its okay for me if the brown/white ratio isnt perfect, in fact I would prefer more white(thc,high) but as you can see on the pics 16,17,18 there isnt any resin at all. So do you think 3-4 Weeks would be enough for a propper resin produktion is there are a few more good sunny days?

enjoy:

pic 14

pic 16/17/18

pic 20/21

[bozoph 696]

looking healthy and green

[FragmopG 27]

Two sunny days....and the resin production started, could be stronger but the first white crystals around the calyxes and the budleafs arrived.

Main factors fore the resin production is temperature and light right?

Since we decided to use the whole clone and the lower branches of the main plant for hash, we hope fore a strong crystal productin as weh had a few month ago with the same plant (so the potential is there).

Also its getting pretty cold around here at night, about 10°C at nikght and 20-23°C at day, since I have the opportunity du you think we should get them inside(at night)?

The Clone:

Main:

[kupobg 2]

Nice grow mate. I think if u have the conditions u should bring them in if it gets cold cold

[Romeu9 491]

Im a terrace grower myself and i take mine inside each night... and back out again by the morning only after the temp is around 20c or higher..

take care

[FragmopG 27]

Hi guys,

Both plants are doing well ! Both getting additional Phospor and 2/3 Blooming 1/3 Groth (against N deficiency) nutrients .

Think we´ll go on with fertilisation for the next week (good weather announced) then flush and let them live for another 7-10 days (just water) till we harvest.

Think they will be ready to harvest in about 2-3 weeks, tell me what u think!!. Have no real close pictures but resin glands starting to get milky.

1 problem appeared, we discovered a little "rotten bud" it was one of the really small buds under a sidebranch bud, the stem/leaf/bud was dark brownish/black.

Absolutly no signs of anything else at the rest of the plant, just this little bud.What is it ?? We stressed them with no water for 4 days and started giving her fertilizer and water right when

the sunny days started 2 days ago, since then resin production exploded^^, perhaps too much stress and the rotten bud is an illness ?!?!?(the rotten bud doesnt have any signs of

typically mould or hairy fungi). what could this be? illness/virus because of the stress ??

So here the pic of the ill bud (it was just this little bud and we cut this and the healthy bud below this to risk nothing):

This is the little Clone :

Main Plan:

Main Plant, main Bud:

Side cola from the top:

[FragmopG 27]

Hi there,

why no response? are they that miserable?^^

Latest uptade: Both plant are fully fertilyzed at the moment, developed great after the flush and the dry week. They still get 1/3 vegi 2/3 bloom and Vitamins and ++ P/K.

Think we´ll ceep on till monday (last day of the good days is tuesday) thenn fluss a couple of times and harvest in about 11-12 days.

Is this realistic??? How does the resin glands look? (sorry couldnt make better pics withe a cell phone and a microscope okular...)

First Pic : The small clone

Main Plant Headbud:

Bud^^:

Pseudo micro :

[Maffro 303]

lovely load of resin on that last plant, they are northern lights right ? do you know roughly the date they started to flower ?

About the flushing and harvest i dont really know, my tactics are to stop ferts around the 20th of sept then harvest before the frosts or when mould gets too bad - that part is weather dependant sp im just riding my luck right now !

Wicked grow - best of luck with the harvest

[lamsbread 1,369]

Very nice plant FragmopG

Frosting up nicely

Peace

Lamsbread

[FragmopG 27]

Thanks^^

hard to tell besause they had flowers all the time^^ but they stoped growing and started to develope more and more white hairs about 8 weeks ago.

[FragmopG 27]

Finally autumn arrived and both ladys got killed....maybe too early fore the big one but wasnt possible to let them live.

Big one just wet buds: 702 g

Small one just wet buds: 323 g

Mixed small buds: 63 g

Highly potent shizzle: 275 g

Bonus: We found 1, I repeat 1!!!! Seed in one of the outer Buds, average size, dark brown, no idea where the pollen came from. We found no male blossoms at all.

enjoy :

[FragmopG 27]

So finally... the harvest is dried and starting about to be cured.

We made bubble hash with the trimmings (Gumby methode^^) 2 Buckets 2 qualities...turned out we did a capitol (and afterall logical) mistake in the beginning we used too little water so there was no "space" for the trichomes to settel down ( and maybe stirred too short)...in the end we got 1.5g 2 quality and about 0.9 first quality...both are really great^^ very pleasent but strong uplifting high, the first quality maybe a more stony effect.

We decided to redry the trimming and there were still lots of resin left so we did a alcohol extraction and the result was stunning 10 ml of fu... nice oil^^ really hits you strong but also way more high effect than stoned.

Still one problem: We cut the predried buds down to single nuggets (except for the main colas) and today we packed them into "air sealed tupper like things" to start fermentation, but the buds seamed already too dry ! what can I do? The regulat apple skin thing ore orange skin near the buds? We dried the in the Box (upper post) for nearly one week at a humidity between 55-60% and 18°C... too long?

Would thank for some answers

good night/day/whatever