Why are all GHSC seeds feminized

[Skrapi 4]

I have been looking through GHSC's website and i would like to know why are all the seeds feminized.

I mean i would like to to grow my own seeds from the ones i buy and use them for the following crop. Is this because they want you to buy more each time or is it for another reason?

Also just to know, how are seeds feminized?

[Skrapi 4]

Thanks for the quick response. I had just found it interesting in how they only sell fem.

[Dust 6,284]

well i think tok said it all ^^

I will just add that hopefully the SH seedbank will offer some seeds in regular ways too, to able grower to make their own cross

We'll get more info on that when time will come

Have a good grow, man, and give a chance to those seeds you should love them

[energymix 7]

It is very little variety Reg. at least in my party most is all of course a few feminized seed-bank of May which offer seeds reg. But these are such as ES, MAROC etc..

[underground 62]

people just want feminized seeds -and they sell what people wants - and it is more difficult to perfectly copy the genes having only one sex [i know that feminized seeds usually comes from 2 females]

[phayze 27]

skrapi have you tried stressing the plant to get her to grow a couple of male flowers take this pollen and use to pollinate other plants,dont forget to clean grow room of any residual pollen though this is not the best way as not all seeds will be viable but is something for you to try if you have the time and want to experement,

[MissKittyKat 157]

Regular seeds mean you get males which can make more seeds. They want to sell seeds. You wont buy seeds if you make your own. Its that simple. MONEY!!

[lamsbread 1,369]

If you buy a strain and you don't want to keep spending money everytime your grow, then clone them. It is very cheap and lots of people do it all the time.

If someone goes around the world collecting new genetics , with which to breed new and improved varieties and grows hundreds of seeds to select those genes, then has to cross , back cross them,using thier expert knowledge acrued over years of hard work, until a stable strain is produced, it all cost money.

Imagine how much that costs in hours worked let alone anything else, like electricity , nutrients,packaging,advertising, premises,staff,equipment,quality controll and a whole load of other things.

If you don't mind just growing bag seed then do that, it is cheap but you never know quite how it will grow.

All about the money, well that is a part of it but not the whole story ,seed banks are businesses not charities, the people who breed seeds, have put their lives into their passion and have invested their own money to make it happen.

Please feel free to make your own seed bank and run it as a non profit organisation, there is nothing stopping you doing it, is there?

Peace

Lams

[Jimmy 952]

Im happy whit fem seeds, I know what I get every time !

Peace & Smoke

Jimmy

[Dust 6,284]

i totally agree with Lams, Kitty the argumant about they only want you to buy is totaly wrong with the clone possiblities

I do understand tho some prefer Regular some prefer Feminized, for myself i prefer feminized, and if all the seedbank make their own feminized now i guess it is a majority of the growers that prefer feminized seeds

We could make a poll about it if you wish would be interesting to see the results ^^

Cheers guys don't forget everyone has it's own opinion and we should all respect them

[Jimmy 952]

Great words Dust.

I'm pretty sure that the new strainhunter seed bank will have only reg seeds. So everybody how don't like fem seeds have something great to come.

Peace & smoke

Jimmy

[URBANNINJA 720]

Jep i like fems to when i remember what props and stress i got on my first grow with regular seeds its makes the start for beginners real easy. bad side if u want to cross some strians for your own u cant get males. but no gd without a bad side thats the way of life....

[Dust 6,284]

well if you want to get polen on a feminised girls i'm pretty sure i could manage that easily ( enough big stress should turn them ) if crossing would be such a problem for the fem haters they would have done it already ^^ (not you kitty )

[slimjim 590]

different factors during weeks 3 to 6 help to dicide which sex your plants will be

because of this i beleive feminised seeds are good for us novices and professional

however once you have a good regular mother it will give you good stable clones for longer than a fem mother

[Gfarmer 1,068]

there are a lot of myth's retaining to feminized seed's and i think alot of it has to do with misinformation and from others who don't fully understand the process making clams that maybe where true say when feminized seed where in there infancy but the truth is green house only offers feminized seed's for the reason most seed companies only offer them the majority of growers don't have a need for male plants. there are breeders out there that get hurt by this but unfortunatly they are a minority and yes it has to do with money but GHSC is a company and since making money is what companies do how could anyone blame them for it.

the problem is there are people online that have a problem with capitalism and believe just about anything they read online and attack companies like green house for offering feminized seeds on the basis that they saw a video on youtube saying that feminized seeds are inferiour and problematic but without really having any knowledge on how feminized seeds are made the advancedments in the last 20 years in that feild ( i meen i have heard such outragious clams as green house is owned my monsanto and are selling GMO cannbis seeds thats how crazy some of these people are spreading these rumors)

the truth is feminized seeds arent genetically modifyed, to understand more about feminized seeds you have to actually look at some of the clams against them probably the most damging rumor about feminized seeds is that they are more prone to displaying hermaphridite traits, and believe it or not there is something to this rumor if you heard it in the 90's because before people learned new methods to making feminized seeds the process wasent perfected. its all about the method back in the day when one wanted to attempt to create feminized seed's they would look for 2 females in a population 1 for its drug traits resistance to stress etc... the other they would pick sspesifically for its ability to create male flowers for there they would stress that plant to produce more male flowers harvest the pollen and create feminized seeds by pollenating the other female with the pollen taken from this hermaphrididiic plant they used to call it "breeding with herman" or something along those lines.

the truth is all cannabis plants have the ability to create male or female flowers it is a survival mechinisum build into the plant where stress and certain situation can bring out and certain plants are more suseptible to displaying this trait, and the obvious problem with this method of making feminized seeds is that you are looking for 1 of the parents to display this trait readily, by that notion a certain amount of that plants offspring will also be more suseptible to displaying this trait. but since then a lot has changed now a days most breeders use colloidal silver mixed with water in a spray bottle to spray on female flowers to reverse the female flower and then harvest the pollen this technique really changed things because now a breeder can pick two females that are risistant having stress trigger this trait making the offspring no more likely then any other cannabis plant to produce hermie's .

but since those rumors spread over the internet now ever grower who grows a feminized seed and gets a hermie crys faulty seeds as if theres no possiblity that the hermie was caused by stress brought on by human error and it has to be the seed companies fault.

the one thing that has been hurt by feminized seed production is the breeding population of male plants it is pretty sad that there isent more push to have both types avalible but you can still use green house strain's to pick a the female plant and if you really wanna get some pollen there is always collodial silver spray which is super easy to make or you can order it online as well

[MissKittyKat 157]

Yes your all correct money is not the only reason but sure is the main one. My point is they want you to buy seeds. Its a business. Yes you can clone, but they don't want people ripping of genetics easily and making seeds. I think many seed companies have just stolen others hard work and start selling them. I do not blame the seed companies for trying to protect its intellectual property. I am not going to name those seed companies but offering regular seeds makes it easier for people and other companies to do so. Meaning they loose more money.

I purchased some Sensi Seeds Jack Herer at 400 dollars for 10 seeds. I made my own crosses and inbreed, and I will never buy Jack Herer seeds again from them.

Then the demand for female seeds and plants from the customer is also there. Not many people want to breed. They don't know anyone else to get clones from so they need seeds and don't want to worry about the males. So the companies cater to this market.

Its sad because I like to purchase regular seeds to make my own. But it all comes down to they are a business and everything they do is geared towards profit and protection of the brand.

Wish we could get some regular seeds from GHSC, would love to play around with some of the genetics! But thats what I think...but what do I know..dick thats what.. LOL!

[Gfarmer 1,068]

i wanna add one thing to this conversation its an article i read on feminized seed production from sensi seeds its pretty informative and helped me understand feminized seed alot better.

the article is called feminized seeds breeding to minimise intersexuality and covers briefly the history of feminized seed production better then i could exsplain

http://en.sensiseeds.com/feminized-seeds-breeding-to-minimise-intersexuality/

and miss kitty kat i am with you that money is probably a big factor but i don't think there is anything wrong with that i mean if i owned a company you could bet one of my main concerns would be making a profit and i know for a fact green house has had trouble in the past with people taking there genetics breeding them out and then selling them as the originals, and all a seed company can do really to protect themselfs against this is copyright the name and or make the genetics a secret like paradice seeds which blows even making feminized seeds doesent even fully protect against this because anyone who knows how to reverse a female can get there hands on pollen and its actually alot easyer then it seems making collodial silver spray is pretty easy anyone with a silver coin, a cup of water, a battery and a wire can make there own Macgyver style or you can purchase some off several places online for cheap.

i think what would be really cool is if green house like took just there classic strains white widow , lemon haze the more popular ones and offered both regular and feminized there are a few seed companies like TH seeds that does this i think that would be a decent solution because it would be a huge undertaking to release there hole catalog as both they would probably have to double there breeding facilities and i just couldent see that being practical just to make the customers that are breeders happy but in offering at least some they would not only make more people happy but it would encourage people to try breeding which i fear will become sort of a lost art if feminized seeds become even more popular.

[lamsbread 1,369]

Misskitty Your thoughts and opinions are as important as anyone elses and has made for a very enjoyable read.

You make some very salient points

The question "Why are all GHSC seeds feminised" I believe that this question has been addressed, even if the answers maybe far from perfect.

You are still able to play with GHSC genetics, though of coure you need a good male from another seed company.

You seem to really like Kushes and it shouldn't bee too hard to find a regular seed male to breed with the GHSC kushes etc.

I just googled "Regular Kush Seeds" and there are alot out there, from a lot of seed companies , so making a new line of kushes shouldn't be so hard.

Any breeding experiments you do, would be great to follow in a post and i'm sure it will be a great help to many members.

Bushy old grower "BOG Seeds" is a bubblegum specialist and has a selction of stock plants which he then crosses with seeds from other seeds companies, he has great success and some amaszng strains so full of trichs you'd think Jack Frost had something to do with it.

It is possible to make male seeds by changing thier enviromental conditions -

1. a higher potassium concentration will give more males.

2. a lower humidity will give more males.

3. a higherer temperature will give more males

4. more red light will give more males.

5. Keeping the light period at 12/12 as reducing the light period will be more benneficial for making fem seed.

Maybe you have stumbled on to something, no one has yet to my knowlege set up a male genetics seed bank. Could this be a future business?

Peace & Best wishes

Lams