300w CFL Veg-600w HPS Bloom

[MelloJamie]

Hi folks,

i'm already into my 12/12 Bloom period by about 10 days after Veg'n for 4 weeks under a 300 CFL in a Powerplant hood, im using Bio-Bizz All Mix soil and aiming for all organic. I have used only Brewed Tea's for feeding so far, made with Bat Guano, Earth Worm Castings, Blood,Bone and Fish Meal and Cal Mag. I put around a tablespoon of each per Gallon in a 5 Gallon bucket with an airstone and leave for at least 48 hours , until the foamy, bubbling mass appears on top of the water. I have also put some Black Treacle (Mollasses) in as well but i think this is only meant to be added at flowering time...Any confirmation guys ??

I think they probably could have did with a little longer Veg Time but as i want these finished for Santa comin and i expect the Cheese and Mibbe the Lemon Skunk to take 9 weeks to finish, mibbe 10, that i better start the 12/12 period sooner. They have been under a 600w HPS for around 10 days now and of the 5 plants , 4 are showing the first pistils of the flowering plant

I up till now had always used the DWC Hydro method so this is the first time going organic and 1st time soil also. I am going to continue using the above mentioned feeds in the Brewed Tea delivery but i have some Bio Bizz organic Bloom, and the Ionic Grow , Bloom and Boost, so i want to avoid using that at all to keep organic as i have been told the difference in taste is worth it.

When they were seedlings i nearly killed them due to foliar spraying when they were under the lights , so i nearly lost them !! I actually thought it was signs of burning (Nute burn) and thought that maybe the soil was too hot, it was a friend on FB who suggested water/light damage , so i raised the light and stop everything to let them recover, glad to say i was advised correctly and they did recover.

I am by no means a champion grower and i am always open to new tricks of the trade or tips, anything that can/will improve the health of my ladies, so if i am doing something wrong or you know a better way, please, feel free to point this out to me.

These are the pics of this grow so far, from seedling, Veg and last few are from a couple days ago under the 600w HPS.

Peace Y'all MelloJamie

[MelloJamie]

Guys i thought the dates on the pics would have sorted them in order.., so obviously the pics of the smaller veg'n plants are supposed to be above the the larger pics, sorry..

i'll know when i post updates to make sure i add them in the correct order for neatness !! Opinions and corrections welcome !! MelloJamie _\|/_

[Dust]

Thaznks for making a grow journal for us mello!!

Girls are looking nice and happy, make sure to share those till the end with us

Have a good grow!

[MelloJamie]

Yeah Dust, i will do as i have every intention of making this a decent weed, its my weed for this Year's Christmas, by my estimation of these girls being here for Santa comin, so i need these Ladie's to be good for me, lookin forward to tasting them as so far they have been all organic, just brewed tea's and some of they same ingredients as the tea's in an organic soil mix. I want to stick to these and nothing else except some Cal-Mag if and when needed. Cant wait to taste them and smoke some good weed. Stuff around here aint to hot just now. Peace Y'all _\|/_ Mello Jamie

[SantaBuds]

nice job mate... we have the cheese and lemon skunk in common... hope u have lots of buds for xmas....

peace.

[MelloJamie]

nice job mate... we have the cheese and lemon skunk in common... hope u have lots of buds for xmas....

peace.

Thanks Santa,

i checked out out you're Seeds Mothers and Clones thread yesterday, nice man !! I will be updating this journal in a day or two, yesterday i tied down all the side branches, looks good and now the light can get right in the canopy, i'll take some pics in a day or once i'm sure it's reacting well to the tie down ! Peace Y'all _\|/_ Mello Jamie

ps Santa , Cheese rocks doesn't it..?? 1st Time growing Trainwreck and Lem. Skunk , lookin good.

[SantaBuds]

yeah they look nice, keep up with the updates!!!!!!

[Panc justed]

Doing great, keep em nice and green

Good luck and nice topic

[MelloJamie]

Hey Guys,

been about a week i think so i'm here to update and add some pics, Firstly i must say ' Forgive me about the pics, it's only a shit wee camera fone, unfortunately that is all i have as my absent minded other half left my/our last camera at a wedding we were both at, mibbe she has took the million hints i have dropped about Santa replacing it this year with a brand new camera... Well i can hope anyway !!

OK , yesterday i gave the ladies a brewed tea, Mexican Bat Guano, Earth Worm Castings, Blood,Bone and Fish Meal - a Tbs of each per gallon of water, (3 gallons ) in a bucket with an airstone, brewed and bubbled for 48 hrs. I also added some cal-mag and Mollasses (UnSulphered Black Treacle).

The top is absolutely foaming, loads of those micro bacterial thingymabobs i have been told are so good for the organic soil. After it was brewed and before it was fed to the plants i added some Organic Bio Bizz Bloom nutes and some Canna pk 13/14.

.A few days ago i tied down the bottom branches but its hard to see with these camera pics, the branches have adjusted and turned upwards toward the light while still leaving room for the light to get in to the developing bud sites on the stalks.

This is probably the best pic of the bud sites, its on a Fruit Spirit (RQ), The only plant not a GHSC Plant !!

And here it is from the top view.

And side on view, you can see the bud sites on it's 'Top' developing here.

The Cheese and Lemon Skunk both still only have their pre flowers or very little pistils but the plants still look nice and healthy.Here is the GHSC Cheese.

And this is looking down on the Lemon Skunk and then its the one in the foreground of the picture after...In the 2nd pic the Cheese is also to the back right hand side.

The GHSC Trainwreck , which i topped is growing multiple tops, Incidentally there wasn't height restrictions or anything, just me doing different things, some are topped, some arent and 1 was supercropped, (The 2nd Trainwreck). And here is the view from the front of my tent, the supercropped Trainwreck is the 1st on right after the Lem Skunk, with the Cheese behind.

Thats the pictures folks, i also added a 2nd oscillating fan, a clip on 7 inch one, so i have a 12 inch oscillating fan on the floor blowing through and under tha canopy at the exact opposite of the tent is the clip on blowing above the plants canopy and helping to keep them cool from the HPS, As they have got bushier i also added my 135w LED with a 7:1:1 ratio of Deep Red , Blue, White. I had high hopes for it when i got it as i was aloud to specify which spectrum i wanted and chose the Deep Red 660-670nm , but unless it is a real top end model of LED they are only good for supplemental lighting. Dont get me wrong , there are some good producing LED's out there, Fero, Stealthy Samaritan, Appolo etc, just that this isnt one of them. And last but not least i added a Buddy Carbon Filter 290m3/ph to my Ruck/Can fan 260m3/ph extraction set up as it is in my bedroom and the smell was just starting to be noticeable. So again folks , comments appreciated and if i am doing anything wrong or you know a better way to do it feel free to say in the comments, im always open to learning new and better ways of doing what we love.

Peace Y'all _\|/_ Mello Jamie

[ka4irga]

Wish u luck with ladies and Santa! ;]

[MelloJamie]

Thanks Ka4irga.., and Panc justed..,

and thanx to all the other visitors and well wishers, Big shout to the Admin and Mods who without them we wouldnt be able to showcase our grow's and share what we do, Certainly cant

be entering them in any gardening contests anytime soon in this country without getting . Peace Y'all _\|/_

ps, Anyone know why on the menu for the grow journals, most grows have a hash leaf at the left hand side, some have a blue star and mine and

1 other journal have nothing ?? Just curious..

[Dust]

no problem for the wuality of the pics, as long as we have pics

Thanks for the news they look good

Have a good grow and keep us updated

[DoDo420]

Very nice ! good work!

[MelloJamie]

Thanks Guys,

Yeah Tokage, that should have said a TEASPOON per Gallon in the brewed tea, and the soil has a little about 3/4 way down the pot so the roots get to it just when they need it most, if anyone follows the recipe above and uses a tbspoon, dilute it a bit before feeding to the ladies !! As we know its a lot easier to top up underfeeding than it is to fix overfeeding !!!

Peace Y'all _\|/_ Mello Jamie

[lamsbread]

Love that you using "Tea" bubbling up all those nice organic ingredients with lots of oxygen really get those beneficial micro-organisms multiplying, worm castings and guano are full of them.

Adding carbs ie. molasses in veg is beneficial too as it will feed the micro organism supplied by the tea.

The beneficial micro organisms that are attached to the roots and in the soil , have a symbiotic relationship with the plant and aid water uptake and mineral delivery as well as providing a defense from microbial soil borne pathogens.

Keep up the good work.

The girls are looking lovely, not long now and we will see them putting on weight & frost. Keep them pictures coming as i know i'm not the only one who like a bit of bud porn.

Peace

Lams

[Stretchnomore]

Very nice work! try standing further back from the lights or ballast if your using a camera phone etc sometimes work

[Campo Cultivator]

" it was a friend on FB who suggested water/light damage , so i raised the light and stop everything to let them recover, glad to say i was advised correctly and they did recover."

glad i helped m8 ... looking good

[judgefudge]

look beautiful

[BEDZ]

Great pics mate keep them coming

[MelloJamie]

Hey Judgefudge and BEDZ and of course everyone else who has been popping in to see the journal, Santa Maria, LAMSBREAD, Dust, Stretchnomore, Ambertrichomez, Jimmy and again of course , Greenhouse, Strain hunters and the mods, Jose.gh , Fuzzy right up to Admin, Franco and Arjan, but a special shout to Mr X and Jose.ghwho has also put a significant amount of time and effort taking part and appearing in the forums and of course all the work he and Jose.gh have put into this Inddor Cannabis cup we are all dying to win..lol..:-) , As i have said before though guys, after i finish this grow and start on my cup entry, all you others don't be disappointed if you don't win 1st prize cos i've never been to Amsterdam so i'm going all out for 1st prize in powder feed category, ha ha , there is good runners up prizes though

Okay guys, - to business.

Those who have followed know i am doing all organic, for the first time, i have usually been a hydro grower, to be specific, bubbler buckets were my thing. The yield with them was awesome but i had always heard organic grown weed tastes way better and the yields are a lot smaller, so there lies the 2 major points to consider, as this is for me and to make some tinctures or similar for my fiancee for chronic back pain i decided yield isn't as important as quality and for me, taste, as i will be using it in the more traditional way- BLAZIN

I'm proud to say that i havent used anything non organic yet, and seen as i have only the last weeks left don't think i will. In one of my earlier up dates i think i said i used Canna pk13/14 which obviously isn't organic, my bad, it was Canna Bio Boost, organic enzymes for boosting flower production and it was B.A.C. Organic PK Booster that i used for pk !!

So yeah, im happy about that as this has been my whole deal with this grow organic all the way, even using Mycorrizae Bacteria to help estabilish a secondary root system, and i have to say, although it should have been in my last post- when i took the one male out which i had been using bennies and also making some with the compost tea, the root system was amazin, the whole base of the plant was covered when i lifted it out its small 1.5 gallon polypot !! So i can only assume the polypots they are in just now (15l) have the same/similar root system.

A quick recap of what i have been using- The soilmix was Bio-Bizz light mix for seedlings and first week of veg, Bio-Bizz All Mix after first few weeks of seedling to veg, Bat Guano (Mexican) Nitrogen High in Veg, Bat Guano (Jamaican) Phos high in bloom, Earth Worm Castings, Blood, Bone and Fish Meal and a sulphate of potash additive for the soil. Elixer, a calcified seaweed, Kelp and other marine plant extract, it has all the micro nutrients, Mag, Cal, Iron, Boron etc etc, over 50 different minerals !! Also some Epsom Salts very rarely and sparingly as i had the Elixer. Some Bio-Bizz organic Bloom and Topmax and the organic PK13/14, Also some Dolomite Lime powder in the soil and in the TEA's before i got Ep Salts, and last but not least some Nitrozyme and Superthrive, mostly for transplants but also 1 drop per gallon in feed, Superthrive is a top notch Vitamin and Hormone liquid and its good imo ! :-) Oh, nearly forgot my wonder addittive, Blackstrap Mollasses, this is a very knowledgable site so i assume everyone knows about mollasses but a quick explo of the use of them is- They are full of sugar which breaks down in the roots and turns to Carbohydrates for the plants, giving them that boost like an athlete on steroids !! It gives them more energy or more use of the energy gained from the plants photosynthesis. Old skool growers swear by it and i got to say, even with a smaller lookin yield, i can still notice the sweeling and solidness of the buds compared to when i didnt use it.

As i said in 1'st post, the soil has some Blood, Bone Fish meal and Dolomite powder added to it and the feeding schedule has been compost tea's, incidentally, they just had a feed yesterday, the usual, 1 tspn of Blood,Bone,Fish meal, 1 Tbspn of Bat Guano, phos high, my PK 13/14 and 25 mls per gallon of Calcified seaweed extract and for blance and a wee all round shot of fert, a half cup of EWC which i dont find as strong as the other ingredients so can add a little more, all in a 25l/5 gallon bucket with a hydor air pump for 48 hours, full of foamy micro bacteria, 48 hours is peak time, any less and they arent as much as could be, more than 48 and they start to deteriorate. If there is any tea left after feeding, it can be stored in a fridge, if you have an understanding wife !! I don't so it doesn't go in my fridge so try to make what i can use only !!

So here we go with the latest pics-

OK , so the Fruit Spirit from Royal Queen is really good lookin and the THC Crystals formaing are amazing, there are parts of the FAN LEAVES !! Yes, the Fan Leaves that are caked, the look as if they have been in the freezer !! As i said before my pictures aint that good cos its a camera fone and as you will all know, the HPS somehow interferes and its like you can see radio waves, although i dont know why this is so i wont try 2 explain it, here is the Fruit Spirit and also some Macro shots of the bud sites although im not sure how well u will see them...

And some more bus sites on Fruit Spirit- +

Believe me, if you cant see the crystals they are there and they are beautiful !!

As i said last update, i added my 135w LED and in past week since last post i have added the 300w CFL i used for veg to the side of the tent, low down, to act as supplemental light for the side Branches, so in these you can see the LED and the CFL.. This one is the GHSC Cheese, with the GHSC Trainwreck in the background and the 300W CFL to the right-

In the next 2 , the 135w LED is above the Sleestack x Skunk, unknown seedbank, it was a freebie with an order..

While were on they plants, here is sots of the Sleestack x Skunk top cola's..And here is 2 with Sleestack and also the GHSC Trainwreck-

Here the Trainwreck makes another appearance but only coz its next to the nxt subject in line, the GHSC Cheese, Trainwreck (left) Cheese (right)

and some more Cheese-

And gettin to the end, the marvellous Lemon Skunk, it has shot about a foot taller than the other 4 plants so it sits kinda to the side of the light but still as close as i can get it, i didnt want to lift it higher, further away from the others for the sake of one, so the top cola sits about 1-1.5 inch above the reflector which i really cant see that causing any harm, it still gets loads of light. It started showin flowers well after other plants and it looks less formed so im thinking its defo taking a sativa dom pheno, it has long slender leaves and just looks like a sativa, i even thought they maybe got mixed up when i ordered and gave me Super Lemon Haze, oh, speaking of that, the citrus/lemon smell from it is amazing, its like you just stuck your fingernail in a Lemon to peel it, just rubbing the stalk leaves an intense Citrusy lemon smell, beautiful, cant wait to try it

So here is the Lemon Skunk-

And to finish off i thought id show where i trimmed off all the lower bud sites and some lower branches, so that the plants keep all their energy for the top bud sites and dont waste it on popcorn buds,

also directly in front of the space under the canopy is where my 12 inch floor fan blows, going under all the canopys and moving air and at the exact opposite of the tent is my 7 inch clip on blowin over the top of the plants, so its like a circle circulation, down n under and up and over, i also have a small 6 inch which isnt very powerful so it is just at side of ten, again blowing under the canopy.

So lastly, here is the overall view from front of my tent !! Hope you enjoyed !!

So , as always peeps, feel free to comment and give opinions or praise lol , or if you feel im doing something wrong or you know a better way, please say so, im not adverse to learning new stuff, in fact i welcome it if it is going to improve any part of my hobby.

Peace Y'all _\|/_ Mello Jamie

[mkseed]

Locking nice mello ,hope your ladyes make your chritmas more happy

keep it green

[Dust]

that's a nice big update like we like Thanks for the hard work

Well i would comment if i saw anything wrong but girls look happy and i don't see what i could add

Thanks for tyhe news keep them coming

Have a good grow

[BEDZ]

Very nice update mate cheers

[lamsbread]

Everything looks good and budding nicely, great description of the smells

I also like the info you give about using mycorrizae which creates a symbiotic relationship with the roots, helping feed the plant and which also fights of nasty bacteria and fungi.

Great to see guano, seaweed and compost tea being used , looks like you got the organic thing covered

Blackstrap molasses is good too, something i have used, adding carbs in flower stage, is a great bennefit to the plant and also provides food for the mycorrizae, it has the added bennefit of having a small amount of magnesium naturally in it.

I wouldn't tell you to do a thing differently, you have great results!

Tokages advice on taking photos is good.

take care buddy

Peace

Lams

[MelloJamie]

Thanks for all the comments and input guys, its appreciated !!

Peace Y'all _\|/_ mellojamie