Guscode Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Since the Christal Lemon stuned me, i couldn't forget that unique Concentrate!That's why i wanna make it at home. I don't know how, but my approach would be a dehydration of the BHO with liquid Nitrogen! But it's very expensive to use the liquid Nitrogen only once! What is the best way to make "Amber" or "Glass" ?Didn't find any advices here.......cheersgus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Not much info out there and i had quite a good search of the interweb. There are lots of concentrates and extractions out there like wax/budder(extractions using ISO or HBO which are whipped), BHO (butane honey oil), ISO (isopropyl alcohol extraction), QWISO (quick wash isopropyl alcohol extraction) moonrocks (dried out BHO) there is also Ear wax (highly refined no impurities BHO) "Dabs","Wax", "Budder", "Full Melt", "Black Gold", "Goo", "Amber Glass" are some of the names given to extractions.Jelly hash is a mixture of bubble/ice hash mixed with BHO.Other names for "glass" are "shatter", "shiva" and "amber"Here are the only videos i could find. The first video is probally what you really want, but this is a trailer and you'd need to buy the DVD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nwV-4LiNaX0&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fembed%2FWvhTl6QjsoAAt the moment there is not a lot of good advice out there, it is also possible i may have made a few mistakes as the info i been trying to find is a little sketchy (don't shoot the messenger lol ).WARNING/CAUTION - If using Butane to make extrations always take the proper safety precautions as it is highly flamable.AS with all things new to the cannabis world it may take a little time for expert advice to be freely available to everyone, at the moment i think the best way forwards would be to purchase the fist video from "medicalalchemy.com"PeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just checked the price of the "Medical Alchemy" DVD it is $250 dollars OMFG if anyone has got that kinda cash spare please buy the DVD and share the knowlede with us all.I hope someone else can tell us how to make "Glass" or post to a link how to make it.Flabbergasted ! PeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 In the second vid he called it also "Amber Glass" but that's odinary BHO, i guess. I made budder two times and if i didn't made a mistake, i purged the BHO with the help of heat.But as we all know is heat one of the worst enemies of our cannabinoids. That's why i think that liquid Nitrogen is one viable way to produce "Amber Glass" in a fantastic quality, but i didn't know.We're 15000 more or less active strain hunters, anyone must know a solution for home made Amber!Cheers 'n thx for your links 'n advicesGus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm afraid if you check the memebers tab there is a massive amount of "Members" who have never even made one post.This is most probably due to the fact that a lot of them are either lurkers or just signed in once to see pictures etc.I have to admit to the same, i am a member of many forums, but never post on them, it allows me to read about topics & subjects i'm interested in and find info, that i can then share with my fellow strain hunters.Another reason i don't post elsewhere is most other forums don't have them same vibe as here, Strain Hunters is my home and family on the interweb, so this is where i post.I know what you mean about the second video, but Amber seems to be some kind of butane extraction.One of the best eplanations i read on another forum is "you take sieved Glandular Trichromes and you use Butane to meld and compress the trichromes , which is a slightly different process to HBO where you are disolving the Trichromes and resetting it as the solvent evaporates". I still can't say if this is the method.I have even read of Amber being sold for $300 a gram for the most excelent product, but who can say if that true or not.I guess while it is still somewhat of an hidden art, prices can be charge at stupid rates.A bit like the video being sold for $250 , it would seem if you want to know the secret ,that information is valuable, but who ever makes it could recoup that DVD price by making the high grad product that not many people know how to make.On almost every forum i have visited there are questions "How do i make Amber?" and no one really is able to give an answer, because those that know aint saying.The secret will be revealed at some point , we just don't know when and even if we know how, maybe the skills may take a while to gain.Very interesting subject, I wonder is Franco has any insight on this subject?Peace broLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 This is another video by SirSly420 the guy who did the second video and it seems he did make Amber glass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbqE82LeVz4&feature=plcpPeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 well i have definately learned something today, today has been a good day! After doing some more searches using different search words i found a few more videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbrmZq3uH9k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPZ7ZUUfjm0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRJRzi2oUYEnjoy and take it easyPeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 awesome infos Lams I didn't watch it all yet but for sure will come back around here Sorry man i can't help you on that subject, i have heard few things this week about it, and i think franco talks about the lemon Crystal in a video we will upload soon Good luck man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Oh lambs my man!!! Thx for that huge collection of knowledge. I've seen the vids and came to the conclusion that's in fact only a question of dehydration.But wich approach is the safest for the cannabinoids? And i think the answer is an easy one! The technic with the smallest amount of heat during the process.In one of your posted video the guy just purge the BHOin a vacuum chamber, two times over 40 minutes with additional heat.The result looks like Amber, but i don't believe that this way is the bestpossible one. So far as i know the decomposition of THC start at far lower temperaturs then the heat of boiling water. And this what was the guy do.I hope we'll find a practical solution!And lamb...i agree! I've never see a forum like strain hunters'! So kindly, helpful, enthusiastic, non-arrogant...it's easy to call it "My digital Home"!I'm just a Member for a month or so, but even when i've got Problems with my Knowledge of english and the risk of misunderstanding, i love and be proud of being a strain hunters family member. I even avoid german speaking grow forums, 'cause the unbearable "coolness"! When you've just sign in and ask something well known for experienced grower, you has to be a noob, idiot, baby, cop, or what ever. Here is everything what i feel, that i'm welcome and that i'm surrounded of companions! cheers 'n once again thx lamb!!!gus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Good info is hard to find but I think i found some.This thread on ICMag is very informative, they got knowledge that could be useful if you want to make amber.I need to say this anyone thinking of making this SAFETY first , second and last and then SAFETY, Butane is highly flamable ,in the thread there is a picture of a kitchen where someone wasn't careful, a spark from a freeze blew shit up, you'll see if you read through the thread.Having said that some of the amber in this thread has to be seen to be believed.Here the link - https://www.icmag.co...ad.php?t=168388Take it it easy and be carefulPeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 YEAHAAAA...THAT`S IT!!! A second purification with ethanol. Sometimes the easiest way is the right one. I've wrote Linde Gasses an email, if they sale liquid nitrogen to privat customers. Of cause they abnegate it!But now...thx lamb...we know that we only need ethanol! What for fantasic news! When my actualy grwo is harvested and dried...i'll show you the result. Hmmmm "alaskan ice amber glass"...sounds like heaven to me!THX again 'n cheersgus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozoph Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 u got to vacuume purge bho to make it wax. it total changes the consistency and makes it taste way better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 thank Boz, I thought you'd know something about the process i been checking out vac pumps , they aint too expensive and just bought me hot plate because my cooker is gas.Take a look at the link i posted there a lot of pages but i'm sure there be some nuggets of information you will find interesting.This guy does a butane extaction and then does an alcohol extraction which then removes the lipids and waxes and you end up with pure "shatter", "glass".PeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yeah that's it! Sometimes the easiest way is the right one! A second purifacation with ethanol! And i thought we need liquid nitrogen THX lamb for sharing this link! When my actual grow is harvested and dried i'll show you the result. "Alaskan ice amber glass" sounds like heaven to me......cheersgus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I have posted a thread about how to make Nitro Hash Link - Peace broLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 yes, i've seen this link. But but where i life it's not possible to buy liquid Nitrogen for private customers. And i think there isn't a black market for it. So the russian way of purificate it twice sounds practible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissKittyKat Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I got to save up to a huge load of buds and make me some shatter. I have looked at vaccum pumps and they are pretty cheap. It´s such a good and clear high. Next to me i got some honey oil i made but without the vaccum pump it can never be that good Well if you purge with hot water it can be just as good. You just have to take a lot of time to do it. If you continue to put boiling water under the plate and do it for a few hours, then let it dry out over night on the paper you will have good shatter. Just make sure you are using Colibri or better 3x refinded or 5x refinded if you can find it. 0 impurities, just have to worry about the butane which the heating can get rid of as well as decarboxylate it for you.A vacuum is just faster and easier. They both do the same thing just the heating and waiting takes longer...but it is cool with the vacuum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Colibri is a Butan brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Colibri is a brand of butane , you want to buy a brand the has zero impurities and has been refined as many times as possible. The more times the butane has been refined, the purer the butane will be.Don't just buy any old cheap butane, it will most likely be full of nasty crap you dont wan't.BHO & Butane advice on ICMag - http://www.icmag.com...ead.php?t=31950Brands of butane that can be used ( this list is copied and pasted from - http://www.drugs-for...wfaq/1700.htm��) Go to the link page and have a read!COLIBRI, NEWPORT, CORA, CTC, COLTON, DUNHILL, DAVIDOFF, FACKELMAN, WIN, NIBO, SAROME, CALOR GAS MATCH, UNILIGHT, K2, SUPERGAS, VENTTI, VECTOR. I'am suprised nobody is making a pure butane aimed at people who extract, which could be found at your local head shop.Somebody is missing a trick, surely some smart indivdual will work it out at some point.There is also the mirror test, spray some butane on a mirror if it leaves a residue then that is the impurities in the butane. (this maybe a bit simplistic, can someone verify)I'm sure there is plenty more to learn.PeaceLams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 @toke - I went to swedish ebay this is all i found, maybe you could do a better search http://search.eim.ebay.se/?en=200&es=1&kw=butane+refined&ect=&elc=-2&ec=&eb=S%C3%B6kI hope this is of some use, if not you'll have to do some searching.Peace broLams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 The thread, which lamb posted, is full of interessting Knowledge! I've never heard something about the "low pressure butan extraction" and "absolut". Hope that tokage made a tutorial vid before My Lady is ready to cut.The dude of thread take fresh trim and the result looks much better then by cured trim.Everytime i did it before, i've dried my trim. But i used a tube...not a teapot! I've to try this MethodeAs soon as possible...so tokage hurry up ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 jeje there are definately some inovative techniques he uses, some of the glass he makes is amazing.I still got quite a bit of reading to do, its a big thread.I Have also been copying a pasting it as a word file so I can read it anytime.I think we will start seeing some nice hash here in the not to distant future.I look forward to seeing the pics. PeaceLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guscode Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Here are the result! I've do it two times. And i think the step of frosting the ethanol/THC Tincture isn`t importend. The unwanted plant material (Wax ect.) can filtered in handwarm tinkture also. in my test it works! Very smooth smoke...but totally couchlocking. smells and tast like pure alaskan ice from what its made of. And cause i know Franco loves this strain i called this concentrate "FRANCOS CANDY" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URBANNINJA Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 we did some amber....glass...shatter whatever too hehe we found out that if u let it vap over night on a heating with a temp of 30-35 degrees the bho turns into nice amber glass....the smoke of it was also really smooth..... tonite 2nd try we will keep some pics posting.... btw first run was with mixed strain trim chemdawg amnesia haze...this run super lemon haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzosghost Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 we did some amber....glass...shatter whatever too hehe we found out that if u let it vap over night on a heating with a temp of 30-35 degrees the bho turns into nice amber glass....the smoke of it was also really smooth..... tonite 2nd try we will keep some pics posting.... btw first run was with mixed strain trim chemdawg amnesia haze...this run super lemon hazeNice one man I have a temp adjustable vape, the compartment is quite small but could sort something out I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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