Nerve Damage

[Jimmy 952]

Hello everyone.

This question is actually to Franco or Arjan or the person who can answer!

I suffer from a nerve injury since about 8 years back in my left leg. My injury means that I get pain in long walks or when I work over 10 hours. My doctor knows I smoke cannabis and think it is a good option instead of tablets. My question is which plant is best for pain? And now we're talking chronic pain. If there is anyone out there who know or have the same thing, please share your experience to me. To have the misfortune and harm that I have done is not fun and I suffer every day, even my wife is suffering because of this. I can not go for long walks with her, I can not always have fun with her, etc. So now I ask everyone in the forum for help. I can not have more pain.

I already want to say thanks to all who write here and want to give me tips on different plants.

//Jimmy Of sweden......

[Glocalgrower 3]

Well, I'm not Arjan or Franco. However the issue of pain treatment with cannabis is known as well as what strains to use. White Rhino to mention one..

Anyway, maybe eating cannabis is more effective against pain as a lot of the active ingredients gets lost while smoking. In other words what you inhale is much less than the actual joint. When you eat it everything gets absorbed in the body. That could be a solution. Try google around a bit and see what u find...

Otherwise I'm curious about that doctor of yours thinking pot's a better option than tablets. I know that there's no official support for medicinal cannabis in Sweden so this was quite surprising. I got two doctors in my family and they show no understanding to medical cannabis. Except as they say as a "symptomatic" medicine, that is it doesn't cure you completely only reduces the symptoms of the disease not its cause. And that's the case with a lot of patients. They only treat the symptoms with cannabis not the actual cause itself. But until we can root out the cause patients still need to live somehow. And cannabis fills that gap in a much better way than traditional pain killers who'd turn you into a full fledged junky.

[Romeu9 491]

Hello, Jimmy!

Fortunately of course, I have no pain. I smoke cannabis because I love it but would do it if in pain aswell of course. So by reading your "history", it helped me remember that it is such un humanitarian plant that links people due to numberous reasons, being health and fun 2 of them. It realy is a great plant that we have the fortune to grow and love. From my smal knowledge of it I would say you to try the white rhino and the big bang. Like tokage said powerful indicas will do you very well

take care of yourself, I hope we could help.

[Jimmy 952]

Hello my friends. You are so wonderful to write back to me. I also thought of a strong Indica. As tokage writes there are many doctors here in Sweden who are in favor of medical cannabis. When I talk to my doctor about it so he said that the older generation of doctors are against cannabis and it is they who decide. But everything has its time and duration. I strongly believe that even in little Sweden cannabis will become legal for medical use. But it will take time. I see only two solutions to my problem, first cultivate illegal at home or move to another country here in Europe such as Holland or Spain, etc..

//Jimmy

[Glocalgrower 3]

if u stay low key and only cultivate ur own medication i don't think u'll have to move although that would be much more relaxing. Knowing that no one can bust u.

There are a lot of misunderstandings concerning cannabis in Sweden which makes it difficult to have a proper debate.

In the public discourse there is a clear line separating narcotics from medicine. The former supplied by the peddler and the latter by the pharmacies. As long as cannabis remains in the hands of the dope peddler it can't gain the credit it needs and doctors who'd like to research on it have to deal with extreme regulations which kind of turns it into a "catch 22" situation.

Amfetamine is both an illegal substance and, in the form of ritalin for example, a legal prescription medicine. We can clearly see some sort of hypocracy going on.

Now I don't doubt the benefit of amfetamine treatment in some cases. Kids with ADHD for example, or maybe people suffering severe obesity. However considering how a dangerous and addictive drug it is, allowing that and having a total ban on cannabis seems ridiculous.

Nice to hear there are other voices underground. In the end of the day it all boils down to ignorance. People in Sweden generally don't know much about this plant. Most of what they know is based on frightening examples of kids turning schizofrenic after a couple of joints, or others who are clearly abusing this plant. Becoming completely doped out and just decading into themselves - I've seen it.

Sure there are persons who certainly shouldn't take too much THC into their system, but u guys all know how exadurated it is. A mature debate is badly needed. Especially when people can drink and rumble around at will while chilling out with a joint in your home is considered a crime.

Heard that there's a new swedish documentary on cannabis by "triadfilm" called "jazztobak eller dödsknark?". For all of u who don't understand, that is: "jazz tobacco or killer drug?" It should be out in a matter of weeks I think. maybe it will start a serious debate in Swe. Things are getting interesting up in the northern corner of the world...

All I can tell u Jim, stay off those pills! If anything would turn u into a junkie they would...

[Jimmy 952]

Thanks for the nice words Glocalgrower and your view of the Swedish system. And I will never take chemical tablets, I think that we live in a world that is sick how can leaders in the world to think that chemical products are better than nature's medicine?!

Many thanks again Glocalgrower for that you care. I hope I can find a solution to my problem soon.

//Jimmy

[Glocalgrower 3]

well, the problem is not that it's chemical but that those pills are extremely addictive. But then of course I'd prefer a completely natural product. Even your pot could be "chemical" in a sense. Growing unorganic hydro produces weed with only chemicals, so u might want to avoid that

Chemical products aren't necessarily bad. But the way in which they're produced doesn't always correspond to the ecological way things should be.

A lot of painkillers are in fact produced from Opium poppy. They got legal grows for it in Tasmania for example. Funny thing but they had a problem with kangaroos getting into the field eating all the poppy since they've gotten addicted to it. It was in the news some yrs back.

And Aspirin which actually is acetylsalicylacid can be found in natural plants..

[biggreenbuds 7]

I think i have some advice for you mate ... i know how it is to live with chronic pain .. i have had back problems and arthritis problems since i was 11 years old ... i am currently diagnosed with degenerative disk disease , bulging disk at L4 and L5 , fibromyalga , pinched nerves and arthritis ... i have been on every pain med in the book and they all do work wonders depending on your tolerence but they do really run you down ... i personally need the pills as i cant live a pain free life with out ... cannabis only works to a point for me and i have tried more than enough to know ...

for myself though these are the strains that really help with the pain i live with

Blueberry - i personally like this strain for an all day smoke , alote of people i know though only like it at night as its somewhat narcotic. great for muscle spasms and general pain.

Afghani bullrider - this strain i think was made for use in pain suffering people ... really its a must try and you will know why

Blueberry kush - alote like the normal blueberry but has the kush effects in it , its very narcotic and i really only would like this stuff at night time

707 headband - great all day smoke ... i like this alote when im having bad muscle spasms or my arthritis is really acting up .. it also works great when the girl friend is pms :-) ... make sure its the 707 .. you can only find it in clone form and still is hard

super lemon haze - great all day smoke ... once again i personally get great relief from this strain but alote of people i know dont get any ... im not sure why .. so you have to try and see if it works

Bubba kush - Narcotic , Narcotic , Narcotic

Trainwreck - Try it

Northern lights - a good old strain that stayed around for a reason

Romulan - this was the first strain that i started using medicinally ... this works for everything in my opinion ... anxiety, pain reliever, muscle relaxer , sleepaid , pms , erectile disfunction hehe , afrodisiac , and so many others

hopfully you will be able to try a few of these strains and find the one that works the best for you .. maybe 2 actually .. one for day and one for night .. take a trip to cali and you will be able to sample them all

~Bgb

[Glocalgrower 3]

good info although I'm not the patient!

I don't know if there is but I think there should be a separate thread for strain reviews. Especially from a medical perspective. As well as the difference between eating and inhaling cannabis. I remeber hearing a jewish doctor speaking about marijuana and he claimed that a lot of the beneficial substances get lost when smoked, such as anti-inflammatory substances.

If you're in Cali I guess you can get a whole bunch of info on this unlike us having to deal with puritanistic legislation. Most people I know use cannabis in a recreational way and don't have a clue about its medicinal value. At least not in the sense of formal knowledge.

Is there any official measurement for THC or CBD dosage according to bodyweight as other medications? And are there any strains that contain more CBD than THC? Most commercial strains nowdays are dominant on the THC side while the needs of some patients might be more on the CBD side (pain, insomnia etc..). CBD also helps to neutralize the psychotic effects of THC which some people are sensitive to.

A nice guide through the world of cannabinoids would be greatly appreciated!

[Jimmy 952]

First, I just say thank you to everyone who comes in and reads and writes here. You help me very much. Then it warms my heart a lot that you want to help me. To biggreenbuds I want to say thanks, I'll see which of Strain I can get. Would be fun to go to Cali, but it is an economic issue from Sweden to U.S. costs. My goal is to find a strain that I can smoke all day, any strain that can be used for pain and get you to keep running. Now I will soon try out Jack Herer from GHSC but I have a month left in bloom. again, thank you all for the info, you are the best.

//Jimmy

[kushats 0]

well definely indicas, any strain that has a good amount of cbd, cbg and othe cannabinoids will do the trick..

i have a neck problem myself., and kush helps a lot.

Because of this condition i started growing for the first time.( Big bang and hindu kush)

if all goes well, i will definely post it with the results!!!!

[Jimmy 952]

I hope my wife´s Bubba plant ar good agenst pain . Thanks agen for all the answers from you guys, you all ar amezing pepole and friends! The best to you all!!

Jimmy

[highOnTime 0]

If any of you heard about Professor Raphael Mechoulam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Mechoulam

Well, every drug that reaches the markets, Carries enormous profits to Its creator, And of course, patented Which ensure future income.

You can not patent the cannabis plant, which is why drug companies are trying to re-invent the cannabis.

Raphael Mechoulam Performed experiments that proved the effectiveness of the active and stated that he could isolate the active ingredients, So it does not matter which plant contains more than that or it - Sad as it sounds, Lack of interest stems from the fact that you can not generate profits.

Pharmaceutical companies are interested in a product that will be exclusive to them, I can not find another explanation for this chaotic situation.

[Dust 6,284]

Hi jimmy!

I can't tell you much about it, But i remember a talk on an other forum About dinafem's Moby dick, it is apparently an excellent medical weed for lots of type of pain... Check to be sure ^^

Anyway i can tell you it's a good grow

Good luck on your search man!

Tchouss

[Jimmy 952]

Thanks Dust! Some of the test growers here on SH is testing Moby Dick, I hope that GHSC put it on the market so I can buy some for me and test them out...

Jimmy

[Dust 6,284]

Yeah I am testing it ^^ but I don't know if GHS's Moby is "the same"

[the chef 1]

Bubba kush and the church are awsome! White rhino as well! Jack the ripper took care of most of my back pain! Edibles my friend think edibles!

[Guest dfwi]

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[Agent Orange 0]

I understand completely, I was rear ended by a car @ 60mph and I was sitting still which gave me 6 protruding disc L-3,4,5 and C-4,5,6.(1991) In 2006 I was rear ended by a Big Rig Diesel carrying a set of doubles fully loaded (80,000 lbs+). In 2008 they did a fusion in my neck. I have constant pain. I have a strain called Medijuana or Medicanna. It is supposed to be one of the best strains for pain, THC >25% and CBD's over 2.0. I have not tried it yet but I am getting ready to flower them. I use the weed to cut down on my pain pill consumption. From what I have read the higher the CBD, the greater the narcotic pain relief effect. It seems that the CBD's are produced at the very end of the flowering cycle. I have read that the THC has to start to break down to create the CBD's. I am not an expert, if anyone knows about this please correct me as I am trying to learn. I will let you know how it goes with the plants I have in about 9 weeks.(flowering period)

[Jimmy 952]

Thanks dfwi the information will help me. Agent O you should also have a thank you for your information. Dfwi I'll check out more on the Tens machine. All of you who come in and help me with this, thanks a lot you're the best.

Big love Jimmy