Badger Jones Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Good Morning People,The company 'No Mercy' make bottles of CO2 tablets, after you drop one of these tablets into your reservoir it starts bubbling away releasing CO2, which apparently is dissolved into the water and taken up by the plant through the roots.Until I heard about this I believed that gas exchange only occurred in the leaves of the plant, and although oxygen can be taken up by the roots I did not know this was also true for CO2.If they do what they say it would be a very useful tool to smaller hydro growers where the use of a CO2 injection system would be overkill.Does anybody know if these tablets are effective in delivering extra CO2 to the plants?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Cool add, will consider those tablet when i will try hydro for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC01 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 CO2 GenerationThrough the process known as photosynthesis, plants thrive off of CO2(carbondioxide) intake. Plants require CO2. There is sufficient CO2 in our atmosphere tosupport massive bud growth, but when growing inside you must either haveadequate ventilation (the volume of the room exhausted at least once/5minutes) to ensure that there is a constant supply of fresh, CO2 enriched air.Plants can consume and benefit from up to as much as 5x the amount of CO2that would normally occur in the air in nature.One must have supplemental CO2, which requires higher temperatures andmore nutrients to be utilized effectively. CO2 is a trade secret on how togenerate big buds, to increase the CO2 levels in your grow areas environmentthe purchase of a CO2 generator is recommended. Under bright lights marijuanaplants can greatly decrease the amount of CO2 in the marijuana grow room.Normally the CO2 levels in the air of most grow rooms are quite low, so addinga CO2 tank on a timer will help your buds growth tremendously. Marijuanaplants grow much faster, and produce heavier yields, when they receive CO2-enriched air right up until the last two weeks of marijuana flowering. Be carefulwith this one, as you may not know what to do with all the quality marijuanayou will be producing!Elevating environmental carbon dioxide levels in your grow area can increasegrowth speeds tremendously, likely even doubling them!!! CO2 is a gas thatmake up approximately .03 ppm (parts per million) of our atmosphere. It is oneof the basic raw materials used by plants in the process of photosynthesis.When your plants are exposed to a CO2 rich environment, they grow like crazy!Note: Check the below section on Calculating CO2 Requirements if you want toknow how much to introduce into your grow room to ensure maximum growth.Many growers boast about increased yield from providing a CO2 richenvironment for their plants. Back before air pollution was a problem, thenatural level of CO2 was much much higher in the natural environment. Theplant uses CO2 for photo-synthesis to create sugars it uses to build up its planttissues. Elevating the CO2 level will increase the plants ability to manufacturethese glucose sugars and plant growth rate is enhanced considerably.When plants are growing indoors in an enclosed area, there tends to be alimited amount of CO2 available in the air. Once the plants use up all theavailable CO2, photosynthesis stops. When .2 percent(2000ppm), or six timesthe amount usually found in the atmosphere is used it can increase your plant'sgrowth rate by up to a factor of five!The downside is that CO2 can be a pain to manufacture cheaply, safely, and/orconveniently. It's very expensive to set up if you use a CO2 tank system. CO2 ismost usable for flowering, as this is when the plant is most dense and has thehardest time circulating air around its leaves. If you're strictly growingvegetatively indoors(transferring your plants outdoors to flower), then CO2 willnot be a major concern unless you have a sealed greenhouse, closet orbedroom, and wish to increase yield and decrease flowering time, as this is anawesome method of doing so.The simplest way to create CO2 in your environment is to combine vinegar andbaking soda. You can get creative here and design a mechanism where vinegarwill drip into the baking soda at appropriate timed intervals, this will ensure CO2to be created continuously. Another method is through sugar fermentation, butserious growers rely on more advanced methods.For a medium sized indoor operation, one way is to use CO2 canisters fromwielding supply houses. This method's initial cost can be quite pricy, but fairlyinexpensive in the long run. These canisters are good only if your area is not toobig or too small.Peace!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Jones Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sone interesting stuff there, I did not know that the plants stopped benefitting from CO2 in the last 2 weeks of flowering.But does anyone know more about the science behind the root uptake of CO2 which is generated by the tablets in the reservoir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC01 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The CO2 pellets are the most popular aquarium in it enriches the water, I mean and I use dry ice has no contraindications 5 grams every two dayshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyO8L8TRHgU 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Always thought co2 was heavy.and therefore it is more beneficial to have it up high falling down onto your plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykol76 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I'm more inclined to give in CO2 by leaf, not by roots.excellent method recommended by hc01, in addition to administering co2,also keeps the cooler environment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykol76 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Hi danny,yea the co2 is heavier, and tends to sink to the floor,but with good ventilation grow the problem is resolved.is much more important in my opinion before giving co2 ... growrom be optimized, ie that there are limiting factors, I refer to lighting, temperature, state of health of plants, etc. ..Otherwise you run the risk of wasting co2 only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Hi danny,yea the co2 is heavier, and tends to sink to the floor,but with good ventilation grow the problem is resolved.is much more important in my opinion before giving co2 ... growrom be optimized, ie that there are limiting factors, I refer to lighting, temperature, state of health of plants, etc. ..Otherwise you run the risk of wasting co2 only I bought the c02 regulator once cost 200 quid then I had the hassle of trying to get the bottles for it. So just sold it on. Tbh I have a good fan and ventilation so I can manage without it. Your grow room has to be spot on and the temp has to be raised for it to work properly. most rooms will produce good yields with the co2 we gave coming in the window and the air in the room. Well that's my humble opinion for what it's worth lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykol76 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I hope you get good results, good luck and happy growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Jones Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 DKH - yeah I totally see where you're coming from on this, what you have said is true in nature.However, I've used the tablets in some successful grows before we could afford a CO2 injection system, and they did not make the water stagnate and helped create some lovely smoke. Also the company who make them (called 'No Mercy' if you want to check them out) seem to be a scientific and reputable company.But I still do not understand how they work!Anyone got the low down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykol76 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 simply because the plants take carbon, hydrogen and oxygen, from air or water.Plants use energy from the sun to change carbon dioxide (CO 2 - carbon and oxygen) and water (H 2 O hydrogen and oxygen) into starches and sugars.These starches and sugars are the food of the plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Jones Posted April 2, 2012 Author Share Posted April 2, 2012 OK, I'll ditch the CO2 tablets and get a injector system!But I still don't understand why the tablets are on the market if they only do bad?!Thanks for everyone's advice,Peace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopman Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 They might work better in a spray bottle with foliar feeding ? i dont grow with hydro but you want o2 in your rez , the more the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam-Bhole Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 One very popular planter recommends feeding the plants mineral water ! Think about and it makes perfect sense..lolI tried it last feeding and they accept it like regular water. Not sure how much to add or how often, but a little bit won't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I only use mineral water for my seedling, because my tap water as lots of chlorine and pretty high PH and a 0,7 EC from tap..., so the mineral water allow me to always have a bottle ready when i need it As soon they get 10-15 days old i switch to tap water.But i don't think adding mineral water in tap water will change anything, for sure it won't hurt but don't know if it will be usefull neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Do what prince Charles does, and talk to them lol the press had a field day dissing him for that, but we do breath out c02 Got a mate who had a sickly looking plant and face it carbonated water it perked it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam-Bhole Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 KC Brains said that in the Book Of Buds. He aims for the world's biggest plant and is an outdoor specialist - he says "IWater your plants with mineral water, they love it ! Every plant loves it, it 's direct co2 to the roots."So I guess he must have made some great experiences with it, Mineral water costs a lot more than tap water esp. when using outdoors for acres..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 lol yeah must be expensive in outdoor watering with tap water lol ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsmoker Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 would co2 tablets dissolving in a bucket of water that is left to evaporate be adding co2 to the air??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonella Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 The co2 is useful for the flowering phase in utime 2 weeks but it is better to cease the provision as it would cause a decrease in power of thc. SPEO Essert OF STATE AID BROTHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizla Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 they are nothing but waist of cash instead you buy beaking soda and citric acid in your closest tesco or asda and set a dripping mechanism - the same effect almost for free 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energymix Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 from what I know it pulls CO2 supply for example, his small plantation in the boxCarbon filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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