GHS powDer feeding (mostly indica) + 4x Sweet Mango Auto + 2x Bubble Gum

[superduper77]

sad update

root rot killed the yellow one , i hope other will survive (i smile cuz i have nothing to smoke) it happend cuz my pot height is 9 cm when tube diameter is 11 cm , and when roots are developed, they started to act like dam. Next fail that i used small (5-7mm) fraction substrate (expanded clay) in result - there is no space for roots to breethe , and all holes in pot are sealed

[Dust]

the roots were that short? or you have already separate from the rest on the pic? I guess it mold i see on those? you pulled it out?

[superduper77]

sure i separated roots , no other way to take plant from the pot here is the second part

normally i cant even move pot in tube i cant even turn it , but this time i think that i need to smell roots of yellow one , and i pull pot up and all roots came off without effort

[Dust]

damn sorry man hope the others are fine, are you gonna give them a little peroxide bath or something like this? did you already earlier with all those nute troubles i don't remember if you did :$

[superduper77]

i add peroxide for last two days ... about 200ml for 30liters of solution . I`ll try to take a smell from tubes if it have rot smell ... no other way to early diagnose rot

ps it still smells

[Dust]

damn hope the other ones will make it till the end! good luck man

[superduper77]

damn hope the other ones will make it till the end! good luck man

man there is nothing i can do now (but i try to raise tubes angle so the water can flow quicker). i can correct things only next grow. all i have is to relax and enjoy the show. macro is coming

[oldemarine]

Aloha Superduper77, You can use bleach at the rate of 1 ml to 30 ml of nutrient solution to try to save the remaining plants in the system. You have the dreaded root slime problem that affects plants in deep water and recycled water deep water culture. Roots tend to like a lot of room to grow the aeroponics growers are going to larger 1 meter X 1 meter 50 cm grow boxes now because the misted nutrient solution promotes massive root systems with white fuzzy hairs as compared to the spaghetti roots of a waterfarm and NFT.

[superduper77]

for 40 liters ineed to add 1.3 liters of bleach ? it must be mistype

i have 30% NaClO bleach , if i understand clear i need 6% solution , so i take 2 ml of bleach and mix it with 10ml of water , then add 1 ml of bleach 6% solution, to 30 liters nutes solution

i hope i ll kill them myself

[oldemarine]

bleach like this ??

for 40 liters ineed to add 1.3 liters of bleach ? it must be mistype

Aloha Superduper, Add one milliliter to 30 liters of nutrient we are looking at 1 part per million. The 1 in 30 would be for a strong solution used at clean up time to kill everything when no plants are in the system between crops. I did not proof-read my comment and made a mistake. People who run a sterile solution in aero & rwdc use bleach at .5 to 1.5 PPM in the nutrient solution and be sure not to use the kinds with soap or scenting as the regular 5% to 6% of active ingredient is the preferred product.

[oldemarine]

Aloha Superduper77, Another thing you have to deal with is all the garbage coning back into the pump area and if you take a woman's nylon stocking over the return piping to catch the dead roots it will help. I would not mix 40 liters at a time I would use a couple of 5 to 10 liter flushes and dumps to clean things up and then mix larger volumes.

[superduper77]

i read a lot about bleach in hydroponics ... here is quote

• 
  I ran an experiment with bleach on clones. 20gal tote clones from a flowering plant at 11 days into 12/12, in bubblecloner. a few of these clones were from tops others from smaller bottom growth. after 14 days roots are great. never changed water once simply added half cap of bleach every other day. one clone of 10 died
  

and a link to thread http://www.rollitup....tml#post4131287

http://www.manicbota...cs.html?start=3 about chlorine in hydro

[oldemarine]

i read a lot about bleach in hydroponics ... here is quote

• 
  I ran an experiment with bleach on clones. 20gal tote clones from a flowering plant at 11 days into 12/12, in bubblecloner. a few of these clones were from tops others from smaller bottom growth. after 14 days roots are great. never changed water once simply added half cap of bleach every other day. one clone of 10 died
  

and a link to thread http://www.rollitup....tml#post4131287

Aloha Superduper77, Fairbanks Fatman from Alaska is an aeroponicis grower with a ton of good information on nutrients, aeroponics, and water quality issues. (he has also been banned at every forum he has been at) One thing I learned long ago is always start low with chemical treatments and see what happens because you can always up the dosage. Here in Hawaii with our catchment water off the roof they say 1 PPM will work fine to sterilize drinking water.

[superduper77]

macro session

i think it is male

buds

to much light

[superduper77]

You are battling small problems all the way but you are still a head and with a fine grow. Looks like you will have a few male pods nearing the end of grow. Just take them away as soon you see them and you will be all fine.

man , it is regular bubble gum that did not show stigmas , i will delete it if it will be clear that it is 100% male

[Dust]

good good i thought it was one of your fem strain !!

I love the pictures man don't know if it the new comp or your pics but i love the colors on it

Have a good grow man keep us updated

[superduper77]

no bro! it is Bubble Gum REGULAR , that can not flower because it is 18/6 light period right now . one of them is 100% female (her size now between big and huge i think) and second is not clear , that's why i photo it close ... u personally think it is male ?

ps i`m going to make whole grow journal in one post

[superduper77]

another sad update

today i pull out bubble gum cuz i`m sure it is male (let the pro like GHS make seeds , while i ll grow buds here )

Here u can see a fail with pot - roots close to pot are much darker

[KYGrow]

males suck! (excluding myself)

[superduper77]

start of week 11

solution ec = 1.5 ph =5.8 t=20

recipe for it , using reverse osmosis water ec=0.01 (in gram/20 liters)

calcium nitrate 7.85

potassium nitrate 5.1

mono-potassium phosphate 3.66

magnesium sulphate 5.56

micro (valagro edta mix) 0.4

i mix it in two 10 liters bottles , in first bottle i add only calcium nitrate and micro , in second all else. in result i have solution EC=1.45 PH=6.0

ps about root rot - thanks again to oldemarine ! i used bleach 2ppm for three days (i add it daily) and there is no more rot smell (it was coming before from male bubble gum)

[Dust]

congratz man despite all the problems you've had they still look great and won't be ridiculous in the end for sure!!

thanks for the lil news man keep them coming

Got that mold thing definitly settled?

Have a good grow

[oldemarine]

start of week 11

solution ec = 1.5 ph =5.8 t=20

recipe for it , using reverse osmosis water ec=0.01 (in gram/20 liters)

calcium nitrate 7.85

potassium nitrate 5.1

mono-potassium phosphate 3.66

magnesium sulphate 5.56

micro (valagro edta mix) 0.4

i mix it in two 10 liters bottles , in first bottle i add only calcium nitrate and micro , in second all else. in result i have solution EC=1.45 PH=6.0

ps about root rot - thanks again to oldemarine ! i used bleach 2ppm for three days (i add it daily) and there is no more rot smell (it was coming before from male bubble gum)

Aloha Superduper77, I learned a long time ago we get by a little better with a little help from our friends (old Beatles song) I was wondering if getting the nutrient solution sterile with 2 PPM of bleach reduced the pH swings you were having issues with?

[superduper77]

I was wondering if getting the nutrient solution sterile with 2 PPM of bleach reduced the pH swings you were having issues with?

Aloha , oldemarine ! God sent u 4 sure !

PH swings are not issue to me cuz i have time to correct it two times a day. Now PH is more stable , but it have the same character as before - rising whet EC going down , and falling when EC is rising

[oldemarine]

Aloha Superduper77, Have you considered using a solar powered water distiller to supplement your RO system? Some areas in the USA have water quality like you are dealing with high EC & pH levels. The technology is not rocket science if you have sunshine & room for a ( Do It Yourself) evaporator and collector.

[superduper77]

Macro