Gfarmer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 great grow bro !!! i was looking over your picture's however and i did find a pretty classic sign of magnisum deficency in quite a few of the money maker's here is a picture of one of the plant's that is really exzibiting symptomsone of the most classic way's a Mg deficency develops especally in the later stages is reddish purple streaking and colouring on the stems of the main fan leafs all the way to the main stem. somme of the plants are more further along then others but its a pretty easy fix there are a number of products you can use from epsom salt - cal mag . its most likely ether 1 of 2 things causing it since it isent the genetics (as i have been looking at money maker plants all week )both are nutrient proplems its ether a magnisum or phosphorus deficency altho magnisum is the most likely culprite. tempurature can also cause purple streaking but not to that degree all the way to the main stem like that.here's another pic probably the most advanced one ive seen.here is a video i found where some dude deliberatly give's his plant a magnisum deficency and exsplains how it appears and how to deal with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrox Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 yep greeno, i have 2 of this too hehe atleast 2 thats a very mg hungry pheno it seems, every PF grow with MM i saw had them inside. Some BB have it naturally so its a thing of this or that... i am thinking too Too the buds, really nice trichs Underground. Thats soon the milky MM resin that i wanna see too over in my grow.And about that PF, hit them with the gr/L ... if your not flushin already.peace man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yeah and MM can take high nutes as long as you kkep eyes wide open Well mine did at least lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 hi! sorry for no posting - last time i took my nikon slr d80 but forgot to take a sd card...left sideright sidextreme indica/pakistan valleyi like this picturei added one lst trained ghsc Hawaiian Snowin 10l airpot - it will be flowering now and during nxt grow Money makers - flowering day 36, full dose i mean 1g/l - last time they got same dose - so they got nutrients with 2 waterings. I think that i messed up with ph a little cause my ph meter broke down and i add ph- 1g/l without measuring. Now - after 2 doses of PF they look better - few of them has curled leaves - only on 4 MM's - i think because they got too much light or there are to big temperature switches [without lamps it is about 18 C]. 3 clones of MM showed roots PF got magnesium inside and i think it helped - i can always buy cal-mag or something - and red stems could be from low temperatures during dark period.mm1mm2mm3 - look at the curled leavesmm4mm5 - i like this one - sativa style leaves - nice buds - huge plantmm6 - smallest one - dwarfmm7 - really nice mm - like this onemm8mm9mm10Could be better could be worse - i need new ph meter for sure.Thanks for all answers and looking here - now i will add some more updates and answers and will be here more often.And i am trying to herm one automatic plant with STS - if anybody want i can write how to make your own STS mixture from AgNO3 - 30$ will give you STS for life. Using 3 clones of money maker i will have MM seeds faster than ghsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalisilvermist Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 i am trying to herm one automatic plant with STS - if anybody want i can write how to make your own STS mixture from AgNO3 - 30$ will give you STS for life. Using 3 clones of money maker i will have MM seeds faster than ghsc - Hey Could you explainthis statement - how do you make STS mixture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 nice mand DAY 36 and they look pretty advances stage of flowering already it even looks like some are almost ready pretty surprising m is little longer usually.They look good man, still have some little deficiencies but they look greener than on last update and trichs are building nicely on those buds Hope you'll solve the PH thing quickly and fix that curling leaf!Have a good grow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 - Hey Could you explainthis statement - how do you make STS mixture ?i hoped somebody asks here you gothttp://www.strainhun...or-a-few-bucks/How many liters of water do you mix every time you make a feed?about 40-45 litres - 30l for 15 big ones and 10-15l for MMsnice mand DAY 36 and they look pretty advances stage of flowering already it even looks like some are almost ready pretty surprising m is little longer usually.I am not counting but i checked in this thread - i started counting MMs flowering 7th of December. So today it is 36th day of flowering and about 56 day from switch to 12/12. Nxt update i will start checking trichomes with my super 3$ microscope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Now thats a grow tent , very nice collection you have there. Can only clap my hands and wish you the best of luck.Peace & SmokeBrother Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miminexus Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 as said really lovely collection. whenever I hallucinate. When I saw thisGood lukePeace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran.gh Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Man, your plants are looking frosty.And they are starting to put some weight.Congratz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Hi!Thanks for good words - all of the plants got only plain water and no more nutrients for them - only water to flush the nutrients - Money Makers flowering day 46 - one by one with little comment on each - i am sorry that some pictures are shitty but i didn't check them on the spotMM #1 - very little white hairs, very buetifull amazing smell, pine smell, quite big, not a heavy water drinkerMM #2 - bigger than #1, one in the bigger than other MM's pots [15l], almost no hairs!, really tight big buds, almost no smell! - really nice plant, not a heavy water drinkerMM #3 - light smell, little earthy like-afgan note, heavy water drinker, 50% brown hairs,MM #4 - biggest one, almost no smell, very little brown hairs, heavy water drinker,MM #5 - really intensive fresh pine and blueberry smell, big leaves, medium sized bud [comparing to other MM's], heavy water drinker, many brown hairsMM #6 - a lot of resin and trichomes production, amazing blueberry strawberry wild-strawberry pine smell, right bud need a support, small amount of white hairsMM #7 - normal medium smell, white hairs, big buds, heavy water drinkerMM #8 - micro MM, average pine smell, it almost don't drink water [heavy pot], 50% brown hairsMM #9 - biggest resin trichomes production, 90% brown hairs, average smell, fresh, pine, little earthy note, not a heavy drinker, some amber trichomes already! fastest one in the pot - got a clone of itMM #10 - almost no smell - little flower, no heavy drinker, smallest buds, big leaves, so far worst [with micro #8] plant, 20% brown hairshawaiian snow in 10l airpot is going UPPP How long does it take theoretically for MM's to be ready? 8-10 weeks?Nxt time will be much much better photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Yeah more or less 8 to 10 weeks like you said it depends on the phenotype!wow man that is some nice update! some of those girls look indeed like they are almost ready to cut, beautiful buds, loves number 2 i thinkThanks for all those nice pictures not as bad as you said Have a good end of grow keep us updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfarmer Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 yeah that was an awsome update Money maker is such a frosty strain i hope they offically release it soon i'd love to get a hold of some beans good stuff underground. happy huntin bro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 thank 4 info! i thought about 2-3 weeks more on plain water and smoke will be great Thanks for all those nice pictures not as bad as you said it's just that with some pictures flash turned on and with some not. those yellow pictures are without flash - and they doesnt show white trichomes etc. SLR is not good in those low-light conditions - i have to turn back to samsung ex1 compact... it makes really good pictures with low light problemsI can also write i have germinated new seeds - 3xJHerrer 1xBigBang 1xLemonSkunk 1xWhiteRhino from ghsc, 4 x c99 [2 seeds got twins!], 6 blueberry, 10x ww/s1, 3 lybella/violator kush, 5 sdognesia/arne - i will run a growlog on this forum. It could be second crop for the contest [Hawaiian + 3xJH + BB + WR + LS]. They will be in 0,5l pots under hps 250w till the big tent will get emptyI got some experience with this setup - know what to do better. I need isolation from the bottom [euro pallets] and i need to have entrance from both side - and two hanging spots more. This time veg will be under 1kw not only 600w and ph & ec will be fully controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 sounds like a nice plan to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Farmer Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'm curious to see results ..peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamsbread Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Still loving your stadium grow, your money makers look great with nice resin production.Your stadium grow has certainly been an education and look forward to seeing more stadium grows in the future.Nice set of strains you just started can't wait for pics and journal Have a good groPeace broLams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0th34d Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Always a pleasure to see the Snow! Hawaiian snow... the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 hi!girls are running only on water - and they got brand new 400w philips green power bulb mm's flowering day 51 - one money maker (# is ready to cut!full stadium - they are burning their N right side - all 8 big ones still aliveleft sideand money makers - better pictures#1#2#3#4#5#6#10 (#7 from last update)#9 (#8 from last update) - small micro onenice red hairs#8 (#9 from last update) - this one is ready to cut but i want to cut all of them together - so it will be really couch locking amber trichomes killer #7(#10 from last update)hawaiian snow before cuttingafter cuttingsand on the vertical nethanging 5l bucketswwxbb/s1 - really high and reacts to lower tempsfound some mould on this one and it was cutted today - ww/s1 - that is why rest of top bud is laying alone on the top of screen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 and money makers clones - those are 3 clones taken in about 3rd week of flowering from plants #8 (fastest and most resin one) and from one with most trichomes they already went back to veg - reveged - pictures for those who never saw reveg leaves. i love putting some clones in water when i cut some branches - just for fun.and trichomes + reveg leavesoh and from 35 seeds only one that didnt germinated was 2 Jack Herrer from ghsc. Is there any chance to get them changed? I bought them from official ghsc distributor in my country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Holly jolly man, those are some damn nice pictures i see there #6 seems damn frosty, they all do actually ^^Good to hear end is coming near The big ones seems to have some nice buds tooThanks for the news man have a good end of grow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miminexus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 hi I impresses just as it stings the eyes to see it still, though I work as wellPeace & smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thanks for the news man have a good end of grow!I impresses just as it stings the eyes to see it still, though I work as wellThanks!I´m surprised you did have a little bit of mold on the W.W and not on the MM? Many growers me included had some. MM got such dense buds and really needs a good ventilation.Money Makers and rest of plants - exclude this 1st ww/s1 - had no mold at all. And this tent is in the basement where is lot of mold on the walls... But I have really good ventilation - this fan on the floor is moving air in the whole tent and main fan is powerfull like a jet engine Soon come to "fun". Manicure those buds and suffer a mild back problem hehehThank you for sharing and i bet we see a few more photos soon, yes? I hate this so called "fun" That is why i already work on them anytime i find free 1-2 hours - 3 already down - one ww/s1 one xi/pv one wwxbb/s1Today really fast update - money makers and rest still only on water - just to show that everything is OK - mm's flowering day 58 - as i said before i will harvest them in one day - probably nxt weekSo lets start - left sideRight Side with huge colored oneHanged 5l killersMoney Makers still aliveAmazing one #6 (cloned)Most resin one #8 (cloned)Micro one #9#10MM's right sidesativa style #4#1 [right one] and #3 [left one]Nxt update will be full and professional 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thanks for the news man! you were right to keep us aware i thought they had been cut since last update ^^ but they are still runing and rinsing they should be really nice smoke Have a good end of grow man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Grand Finale!I see no interest in mine growlog - but i want to keep all in one place so lets finish it Firstly some dates:23.10.2012 - Start of Growing Money Makers25.11.2012 - Switch light to 12/12 - so 33days of veg6.12.2012 - Big ones started flowering13.12.2012 - Money Makers Started flowering - Took them about 16-18 days to start flowering from09.02.2013 - Harvest of all Money Makers - Flowering Day - 77th day from switch to 12/12 and 60th day from flowering startedTech:Vegetative growth under one 600w lumatek HPS bulb - 18/6. Flowering stage under 400w standard Philips GP system + 660 SL Lumatek Philips GP system - 12/12. 12-15l soil buckets + 5% perlite + 10% coco. Average temperatures about 25-27C in a lights on period and 20C in the lights off periods. Humidity about 70-80% during vegetative growth and 50-60% during flowering stage.Nutrients:Feeding - Powder Feeding MostlyIndica/FastFlowering 1kg, Plagron ph-, LowEC Bottled Water [not RO/distilled]Some conclusions on Money Makers:MM's can show some delicate purple colours at the end.MM's has amazing pine, forest, little fruity smell. Probably could be grown without carbon filter.MM's are mold resistant - but because of really tight buds - strong ventilation system is advised.Some plants from group 1 had amazing tight buds - so tight you cant but scissors inside to trim them well. Those plants had really easy to trim buds too.MM's responds well to LST training and vertical type of grow.Took them 16-18 days to start flowering from wsitch to 12/12 - it is few days above average 14days. Genes:Group 1: #1 #2 #10 - tight huge amazing buds#7 - tight amazing buds but smaller than 1st groupGroup 2: #3 #6 #8 - amazing amount of resin and trichomes, less tight buds than 1st group#4 - huge sativa style bud, less tight buds than 1st group#5 #9 - below average plantsGroup 1 and Group 2 could be named phenotypes - tight buds phenotype 1 and amazing resin phenotype 2Conclusions:MM's are really nice amazing plants with awesome smell. Smell is like a forest in the summer. Really easy to find something interesting but you have to accept 10% chance to find something like #9.One by one:#1 - amazing intensive pine smell, really huge tight buds#2 - almost no smell and trimmed itself really huge tight buds, like #1 without smell#3 - amazing resin/trichomes production, medium tight buds#4 - really huge, sativa style, showed some purple colours from colder night temps, had some fruit smell flavours#5 - really greeny one, small buds, loosy buds [not tight], difficult to trim, above average plant#6 - has amazing wild strawberries smell !! many leaves but many trichomes/resin - amazing plant!#7 - indica style plant - almost trimmed itself, firstly i was dissapointed with buds but they got mass in the last weeks, very tight buds,#8 - lots of resin like #6 but buds more tight, pine smell#9 - micro one, many leaves, not tight loosy bud, much below average#10 - like plant #1 #2 #7 - very tight huge amazing buds - awesome!Number with grams per plant will be added when they will be dried.Thanks for looking and support!See you with mine Sweet Mango Auto in autoflowering competition I saw that gallery size is 4 times bigger - good to know - so i don't have to create another account 4 nxt competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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