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Strong stem it seems :) good to read they havent suffered too much from your various problem, i had to deal with a passed bottle one time with biobizz, it went pretty good too in the end :) So im not worried for you.

 

Have a good grow man thanks for the pics

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  • 3 weeks later...

First of i gotta say Dust ur the Man!Thank u for all ur Work in this Forums without you this Place wouldnt be what it is !

Ye had same issues with Biobizz 2 month after i bought it :P never had it with hesi but i guess after 4 years u cant Blame anyone but me for using it.

 

So finally my Scrogging dutys are over and the rest of the Way the Plant will deciede the directions.

Im absulutly amazed how rugid this Plant stays in pointo Heat.

The only other Plants i grew indoors that handled heat so well were pure afghan and low altitude Indian Strains.

I was going for this Project as i freaking love the LemonSkunk yet it cant handle anything its a bitchplant like no other, it will allways grow thru if ur not a complete morron but it will Yield bad and wont be outstanding Weed.

I really want to get a superb Lemon smell undertoned with earthy flower flavour cause noone ever combined Lemon with flowers two of my absolute favorite smells when it comes to the Smoke.

Yet u face a giant Wall of choice what ur gonna work with to achieve a Plant thet forfills all of ur wanted characteristics.

This Project is going since about 6 years, first i was crazy about the flower smell and crossed multiple Whitwidows and Kingston strains with no succsess at all.

After 1 year of complete fail i decided to leave all the known Flower strains away and went completly crazy i started with an Ice clone from Nirvana and crossed it with the true original Swiss Erdbeer to get a clear and strong weed smell of the Ice and rossed so long untill i only got the sweet from the erdbeer together with the Ice.

From there on the Foundation was done and over the years it got crossed with hundreds of other Strains which someday reached the desired characteristics.

Its a Strong plant which gets monstrous outside and produces Buds like indicas would fat and pretty dense yet the Leafs tell u another story.

 

In the passing Years i still couldnt get that inicial Idea out of my head and knew i had to breed my very own LemonSkunk at one point or another and started contacting haeven and hell to get a lasvegas lemon larry cut from a original clone mom. Half of all the Cuts died until i got them sadly.

Breeding the LemonSkunk took alot of Time and effort it was the hardest Breed i had untill now it took me 8 restarts to complete the Mission.

After the LemonSkunk was put of the Teastchamber it got taken a step further than i wanted and accidentally around 500Plants were grown out.

This wasnt planned and upset me quite a bit as it was never intended to be released to anyone in the next couple of years.

Yet it gave me a one time chance to see if it was really worth all the work and it was amazing my biggest achievement to the date as in my Opinion n other Open SeedBank can even compare theyr version of LS to mine in Terms of stability.

Now im here showing you the first test of the Final Breed of what i Planned around 8 years ago i guess.

Its looking good and i tell u if this will succed i willbe one of the happyest gals running around on our muddball.

This Project was my Passion for allmost a decade.

 

 

I hope the unreadable history of this Breed will not make u run away :)

 

As it stands now:

It looks good im happy with rhe momentan state

From this Point on ill save my words for the final Post for this Breed until then i will update u with some Pictures when ever i feel like it.

 

I hope u enjoy it and if ever u have a Question about why or how i mae something ill allways take the Time to explain whats going on in my mushy Brain ;)

 

cheerz

 

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Well i am glad that after all this time spent on the breeding and finding the genetics you are finally coming to an end :) And even better if you seem to be satisfied by what you have seen so far!

How did the 5k seeds unplanified run turned? Did i miss it? Nice stable growth, phenotypes and all? :P

 

Have a good flowering on those, the lolipops are building nicely ;)

And thanks for the kind word!

 

Cheers

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Well as u can imagine its a huge relief after all this Time to see an End of this Project.

Well the unplanned Crop was simply amazing for me as this Strain was practicaly fresh out the Box when it happened due to a dumb misslabeling of mine.

But Response fom Grower and Customers was absolutly Great the Grower was amazed by how Stable it was compared to other LemonSkunks yt he was pissed about my mistake as it did cost him quite a bit as it isnt exactly a commercial Producer as u surely can imagine ^^ His Costumers tho were more than happy about it as the Quality was outstanding id hold my Hand in the Fire for the Grower, he is absolutly competent and knows his stuff exactly.

Product was outstanding better than what i`ve ever had out my Testgrows.

His Notices about entioned Parts :

Groth ``Slow Veg strong structure rapid stretch 120-160% 6days in Bud

12/500 sorted out after 20days of Bud uncalculated LemonLearry reseblence with way to long Bud

317/500 Pure LemonSkunk Blend 

122/500 Fast Skunky

49/500 Calyx Madness Connessoir Gem Sour

 

I would have loved to share some Pictures of this but for reasons of Savety of his there were no Photos made Besides some Budshots for my Libary which is barryed at a save Place until Laws change..

 

Cheers

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^^ Yes im pretty happy with the LemonSkunk it really serves what i want from a Plant i want the dominant Pheno to be what it sells for ;)

I will still try to improve on that but i dont want to loose any of the other Phenos completly as the Skunky Pheno in my Eyes has great Potential for Breeding and the Calyx Pheno is a real Gem for every Seasoned Grower and breeder as it is absolutly beautyfull and has a clear lemon smell.

Other than that i hope they will all be stable in its own even after a few generation thats when u see how well a Breeder did his Job ;)

 

cheers

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Hello one more Time my Friends :)

Its Time for some more Photos and info.

the Plants are progresing as they should and pretty much everything seems solid up until now.

There are ruffly 90-100 Tops with direct lightcontact.

It seems as the Ol`Vertox did its job and provides tonns of Resin allready early in.

Even Buds that never intheyr life have seen one direct lightstroke are full glitter allready which makes me wonder what will happen further on :)

The distinct Lemon odoor is allready punching thru the generall weedy smell in the Tent, yet missing any earthy note tho.

As u can see the Screen is overloaded which leads to a very dense cannopy and a lot of humidity under and between the Plants u can feel it when breathing in beneeth the Plants its Wet!

So everything wotked out as planned, there is no moving air under the Plants at all!

Temperatures are sttill around 32day and 28 night this keeps up my humidity and takes a toll on the Plants overall, but it gives great insight of the Genetic behaviours.

Enuff off the nonsense Words let the Pictures speak for them self`s.

I bet u can see which bud never saw light in its life can u ? :)

Sadly HPS photos so yellow to the max ^^

 

cheers

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One more time some Pictures, this time from like 6 days ago..

So the Cannopy looks pretty good not perfect but as im not a real scroggmaster that was kind of expectet ^^

So because of the unplanned long Veg the Pot is just to Small for the Plants, i mean not really but it seems as they would only really lack Nitrogen which i have no cure for as the Veg Nutes are intoxicated. I could use some monotype Nitrogen but i dont really want to go out of the Hesiline as this is only a Testgrow and would produce missleading Resultates.

So this will run on only Hesi Bloom and the Hesi additives like superVit ect.

Ph got raised from 6.15 to 6.5 to get the maximal Nitrogenoutput possible, will get lowered in endbud once again to assure a better P/K ratio.

Buds are forming well i will upload up to date pics tomorrow if i can.

I am still missing the Earthy Smell and the Floral Smell seems to get pretty much covered by the extreme Sour fragerance it starts to convert in, all in all im kind of worryed that i did get 2 Lemon Phenos as id really liked to be able to test a goot Ol`Vertox Pheno too but as Time will come ill grow loads to stabilize and inprove as im not 100% satisfied yet.

She still seems really unimpressed by the Heat around but it looks like the really small Pot could bother her in late Flowering we will see ;)

Now enjoy some pics

 

cheers

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So Time runned again and loads changed in the Tent.

Green is falling first cause of the before mentioned problematics, second cause i drasticly reduced the Hesi Bloom and replaced it with Hesi Phosphor+.

This will reduce the Chlorophylia in the Plant untill Harvest which will give our Flavour a noth up.

Second it will show me the traits of thos 2 Phenos will they drop all theyr lower leafs first ? or start Yellowing all over befor any will fall. This is intresting for future SoG and ScoG`s where u could use Nitrogen limitation to naturaly thin out your Leafs.

Buds look really nice nothing to complain about.

We deffo did get 2 different Phenos as u can clearly see cause of the Budstructure, the rear one resemples a special Ol`Vertox Pheno a lot i expect it to harden up its nugs in the last 2 Weeks of flowering so id say about in a Week, The front one tho looks alot like LemonSkunk but not entirely.

The front Pheno has really long Trichromebodys whichcould be really intressting for drysifting.

Im really happy until now from what i see. Normaly first Testgrows in such a high StressTent are the biggest Issue for all my Strains to get thru with some Result at all, this is really intressting as my LEmonSkunk really doesnt like Stress nor Heat at all, Ol`Vertox is pretty much resistant to anything coming at it as it was Breed for Outdoor in the Highalps.

 

Now enjoy !

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As always very nice infos and often :) And very nice report of course ;) Thanks for the news man, those buds are all looking very nice if you ask me, i have alittle preference for the first pheno with the long colas personally ;)

 

Hope the end of grow will give you some nice infos,

Have a good grow!

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Im pleased u like it ;)

Well i hope i give as much insight on my Thoughtprocess that everyone understands what im doing and why im doing it, maybe it helps some ppl to get theyr stuff going one day :)

Yee the front Pheno looks really nice seems more sissy tho but i gurss thats the just the more LemonSkunk Pheno, yet im really exited for the rear one it looks like a really good Pheno with 50/50 traits of the Parents so im exited as hell for the flavour and the Budstructure at the end ot the Grow on this one ^^

I really hope i can free some Time at harvest so i can make a really good endpost to this one :)

cheers

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Im pleased to hear that Dessie.coll :)

Well we have reached the late Flowering, The front one will be done in 1 Week pob and the rear one maybe 2Weeks.

Looking nice good meaty Buds.

sadly today no Time for bigger explenations, all u need to know is they have not got any Water in the past 3 Days even tho its 30+ degrees in there so they look pretty lampy at the Time i made Photos :P

This will allow for better Flushing as i can wash the soil thru pretty well before its gets moist itself i drain the forst 10 liters and then give them clean ph 6.8 Water for the rest of thyr cycle.

.enjoy

 

 

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As Ppl think im a liar and bullshitter on here i have no Intention to further share my Processes cause they are all a Lie anyways ;)

Sadly the Strainhunters Forums has shiffted from good to bad to worse..

Im really sad to see this change from advanced growing forum with friendly ppl to a place with tons of false Information and asshattedness everywhere.

I allways hoped to see a dedicated Growing Mod who clears missinfo and gives good advice ( dont get me wrong Dust your an amazing Mod and one of the only reasons i keept my thread going so long, but i dont think one mod can handle such a huge Forum and even less community and grow Mod in 1 )

I wish everyone a great life and loads of Luck.

Best Regards Vertox

Bye

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Looks great man. I love scrog and they look frosty as hell! 

 

 

EDIT:

 

I just read what you wrote in last post. Seems like you were doing something positive here but well if one negative thread where you were not very precise with your claims and people disagreed with you makes you quit then I have no words. 

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Not really like i stated the whole Forum startded to shift in a direction where i have no intrest in. The absolute baindead dscussion in the other Thread was just the pinch to let the Barrel overflow.

Its not about disagreeing with anybody i love discussions over everything and if it involves Growing im even more for it, but this wasnt a discussion about anything it was me repeating the same stuff over and over again with noone even reading and understanding what i said, the other guy has a hate on me since i told him his moldy weed was garbo and he should stop spreading nonsense, so nothing i was wonderin about ;)

What really turns me of this Forum is that i dont even have someone to discuss with on stuff i care about as most advanced Growers left and other Breeders just never were active.

Yes for you it might is not understandable why i would quit cause of something like this, but you see im sharing all of my information cause i hope it helps some ppl, why would i lie about that stuff? what do i gain from it other than bad Reputation ? If you would have read some of my stuff you would know i am planning to sell my Seeds as soon as Laws will allow me, so why would i destroy my Reputation with silly lieng on stuff i wasnt even asked in the first place?

Other than that why should i make my self all that work if pp, think i lie anyways ? it not like i make those Fotos for me lol

anyways thx for your words allways nice to hear someone sees the Potential in one of my Genetics.

have a nice Evening

cheers

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Yop Man, sorry to read about your decision, hope you will come back on it and finally stay around ;) Especially seeing the other thread, even tho i see some disagreement, every one in the discussion in the end has kept pretty polite and educated, and because you can´t find an agreement or just don't agree doesn't mean you have to be against it :)  I disagree on a lot of things with a lot of people, i usually tell it, and then once it's told i'm done. For me one person should not keep disagreements in it's mind , it is mind polution and what creates all these bad emotions, when you are able to turn the page no matter the disagreement it makes a big change in life :D

And i am sure nobody have any doubts about the facts you are not a liar, what has been pointed was that there was not evidence of it, but just pass on if you can :) You know the reasons why you can not share it, you have explained them, and you know the reason is right, so no matter what anybody says. I am always happy to see your journal since the beginning for the reason you mention, it is full of info and it has surely helped more than one person growing in the world, even if they dont always notify it, i know all the infos shared around here are helping people from everywhere, and i hope you will keep adding your stone to the wall ;)

 

Have a good day and grow man :rabbi:

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  • 3 weeks later...

Welcom to my final Post.

So im done i harvested everything and its Dry and away.

I harvested 372g dry Bud which is more than i thought id get in such high Stress Conditions.

Material hs a Strong Lemon Small but sadly lacks the Earth undertone a bit, it there but just not enuff, this means i will further improve this Cross.

Bud overall looks gret good consistence good smell good Resin nice high, not really usable for sleeping.

Rear Pheno took about 10 days more to finish properly.

Enjoy the last Pictures ;)

cheers my Friends until another Day

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