Hello, some opium smokers?

[Mr.X]

Hello, Anyone knowif it is effective smoking opium with a bubbler for bho, or is too hot? or maybe with hakko system on pokie is better? I know the perfect is own pipe but I´m tryng with my toys and think works well...someboddy with experience?

Thanks for the help!

[JEFFHIPPY]

ive smoked a lot of it ive always used a glasspipe {long one thou} happy dream land !

[Dust]

Don't know but i wouldn' t smoke opium ^^ I had a iranian friend that tried it once, he had stole from his dad, and in like 2 weeks he disapeared from circulation and we only saw him 2 months after when he decided to stop cause he got a little clear mind lol

Be careful friend don't smoke too much i wouldn't like you to make Flux pictures because of Opium

Enjoy

[Jimmy]

Opium is very relax. I dont know if it´s good to smoke tru a bubbler. When I smoke opium I smoke it tru a woodpipe whit a very very hot steel pin. But hey have fun and like Dust say be safe.

Paz

Jimmy

[Maffro]

I think you have to mix it with something first before you smoke it in a bong - Palm leaf they use in Thailand, they shred it up very fine then mix it with the heated up opium ! Its the same palm leaf that they use as rizlas if that helps

[Mr.X]

Hello friends and thanks for the help! Dust bro don´t worry. The problem is that I have chronic insomnia, I need to tak sleeping pills, strong ones. A Friend give me a few grams for when I get really nervous, I smoke or eat a little bit and it works. But the idea is not to change one problem for other one.

I´ve been testing with a ceramic heater, placing opium on titanium in the bubbler and doing little touchs, work well it´s seems like Jymmi sayd. I have more piapas, so I´ll keep tryng!

Thanks again!

[Dust]

ok good excuse

and so all that oil you always made and other extract doesn't work for your problems?

[lamsbread]

Hi Mr.X

I dont really like opiates, i haven't ever tried illegal ones but have had them in hospital when they thought i might have fucked my neck up and was in intense pain also had broken teeth at the same time. I do know people who have and it was never a good route to take. Addiction that it can cause is pretty full on. But you know yourself and the choice is your to make.

I have however tried " lettuce Opium " which has a very soporific effect, whilst not actually being opium.

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Wild lettuce

Wild Lettuce (scientific name Lactuca virosa) is a tall, leafy plant with small bright yellow flowers. It looks similar to prickly lettuce (scientific name Lactuca serriola), with a few differences. The leaves and stems are less spiny, and grow closer together. A member of the lettuce family, wild lettuce grows wild in North America and England. Wild Lettuce is also called bitter lettuce, laitue vireuse, opium lettuce, and rakutu-karyumu-so. It is known for having mild sedative and pain relieving properties, due to a milky substance called lactucarium which is found in the leaves and stem of the plant. The effects of lactucarium are considered to be similar to opium, though the substance contains no actual opiates. These

effects earned wild lettuce the common name of opium lettuce.

History and Use:

Wild lettuce was widely used in the nineteenth century as an alternative to opium. In was included in the material medica for a number of years. In the 1970s, the herb gained popularity as both an herbal remedy and a recreational herb. It has been used to treat a number of ailments including asthma, cough, insomnia, headaches, pain, sore muscles and menstrual problems. In the past, Wild Lettuce has been prepared for use in a number of way. Most commonly, the leaves and stems would be dried and prepared as a tea. Other times, the plant would be simmered in a pot with water and sugar, and then reduced to form a thick syrup. Though bitter, the effects of these preparations proved quite effective. While these are the two most traditional means of preparing Wild Lettuce for use, there are a number of more modern options as well. Wild Lettuce can be added to tea blends, to gain the benefits of the herb while reducing the bitter taste. It can also be smoked or used in a vaporizer. The herb can be bought in a dried cut blend, as a powder, or as a resin made from the collected milk or sap of the plant. An herbal extract is also available. Each product of Wild Lettuce contains lactucarium, though it is more concentrated in the resin.

Common Uses:

Anxiety:

Wild Lettuce has a mild sedative effect which makes it great for anxiety.

Sleep and Insomnia:

Wild Lettuce has long been used to treat insomnia. The relaxed euphoric feeling given by the herb makes falling asleep much easier.

To relieve Pain and Tension:

Wild Lettuce is also called opium lettuce because of its opiate like effect. Not only does it reduce pain, it has been known to cause a mild opiate like high. This quality makes it very useful in relieving pain.

For Migraine Headaches:

Wild Lettuce is believed to reduce the frequency and severity of migraine headaches. Many people who use Wild Lettuce regularly report fewer headaches than before they began using the herb.

For Asthma:

Wild Lettuce was originally used as a treatment for asthma. Even now, many people claim that their use of the herb is responsible for fewer and less severe asthma related problems.

As a mild Euphoric:

One of the most prominent reasons people choose Wild Lettuce is for the opiate like effect. Wild Lettuce causes a feeling of mild euphoria very similar to opiates, though it contains no actual opiates. Not only is this completely legal, it provides an affect similar to opiates without altering the results of a drug test.

Methods of Use:

Diffusion: (with a diffuser or vaporizer) turns dried Wild Lettuce into a mist that can be inhaled.

As an Infusion or Tea: The leaves and stems of Wild Lettuce, as well as the prepared powder, can be used to make an infusion or tea.

As a prepared Tincture: (liquid herbal extract) A few ml of Wild Lettuce before bed can help with insomnia, asthma, and migraine headaches.

As a Smoking Blend: Wild lettuce can be smoked alone or as part of an herbal blend. The effects of smoking the herb are milder than that of the tea, but take effect sooner. The herb itself is very bitter, and does not taste well when smoked alone.

Effects:

Wild Lettuce has a naturally bitter taste. However, when made into a tea with a few spoonfuls of honey, it can be an enjoyable drink. Some people claim that it is an acquired taste. After their first few cups of the tea, they believe it tastes much better. The initial results of Wild Lettuce are short lived, but the herb seems to have a continued positive effects on overall health, reducing the severity and frequency of a number of ailments when used regularly. Users of Wild Lettuce report:

Relaxation

Sleepiness

Slight sedation

Feeling less anxiety

Relief of aches and pains

A mild Euphoria

A decrease in the symptoms of asthma and migraine headaches

Side Effects:

Since wild lettuce has such a sedative effect, a common side effect of the herb is a temporary reduction in sexual desire and performance.

Legality:

While Wild Lettuce was studied and used as a drug for a number of years, the Food and Drug Administration has un-scheduled the herb. This means that it is legal to grow, sell, buy, or own. This makes it a great choice when seeking relief from pain, migraine headaches, and asthma. The euphoric effect of Wild Lettuce can provide a mild, legal high.

Copied and pasted from http://www.smokableh...uce-wild-opium/

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Lactucarium

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lactucarium is the milky fluid secreted by several species of lettuce, especially Lactuca virosa, usually from the base of the stems. Lactucarium is known as lettuce opium because of its sedative and analgesic properties. It has been reported to promote a mild sensation of euphoria, but Lactuca virosa is poisonous,^[1] and at least one fatality has occurred during an attempt to use it for intoxication.^[2][3] Because it is a latex, Lactucarium physically resembles opium, in that it is excreted as a white fluid and can be reduced to a thick smokable solid. Lactucarium Botanical Lactucarium Source plant(s) Lactuca spp. Part(s) of plant latex (see also seeds) Geographic origin southern Europe Uses analgesic, sleep aid, euphoriant Legal status Unregulated herbal supplement

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• 1 History
  
• 2 Contemporary use
  
• 3 Mechanism
  
• 4 Formulations
  
• 5 References
  

History

"Lettuce Opium" was used by the Ancient Egyptians, and was introduced as a drug in the United States as early as 1799^[4] The drug was prescribed and studied extensively in Poland during the nineteenth century, and was viewed as an alternative to opium, weaker but lacking side-effects, and in some cases preferable. However, early efforts to isolate an active alkaloid were unsuccessful.^[5] It is described and standardized in the 1898 United States Pharmacopoeia^[6] and 1911 British Pharmaceutical Codex^[7] for use in lozenges, tinctures, and syrups as a sedative for irritable cough or as a mild hypnotic (sleeping aid) for insomnia. The standard definition of lactucarium in these codices required its production from Lactuca virosa, but it was recognized that smaller quantities of lactucarium could be produced in a similar way from Lactuca sativa and Lactuca canadensis var. elongata, and even that lettuce-opium obtained from Lactuca serriola or Lactuca quercina was of superior quality.^[8]

In the twentieth century, two major studies found commercial lactucarium to be without effect. In 1944, Fulton concluded, "Modern medicine considers its sleep producing qualities a superstition, its therapeutic action doubtful or nil." Another study of the time identified active bitter principles lactucin and lactucopicrin, but noted that these compounds from the fresh latex were unstable and did not remain in commercial preparations of lactucarium. Accordingly, lettuce opium fell from favor, until publications of the hippie movement began to promote it in the mid-1970s as a legal drug producing euphoria, sometimes compounded with catnip or damiana.^[9]

The seeds of lettuce have also been used to relieve pain. Lettuce seed was listed as an anaesthetic in Avicenna's The Canon of Medicine, which served as an authoritative medical textbook from soon after AD 1000 until the seventeenth century.^[10]

[edit] Contemporary use

Although lactucarium has faded from general use as a pain reliever, it remains available, sometimes promoted as a legal psychotropic.

The seed of ordinary lettuce, Lactuca sativa, is still used in Avicenna's native Iran as a folk medicine, and a crude extract of the seeds was shown to have analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects in standard formalin and carrageenan tests of laboratory rats. It was not toxic to the rats at a dose of 6 grams per kilogram^[11]

[edit] Mechanism

Chemical compounds which occur in lettuce: (1) α-Lactucerol (=Taraxasterol); (2) β-Lactucerol (=Lactucon, Lactucerin); (3) Lactucin; (4) Lactucopicrin.

The active ingredients of lactucarium are believed to be lactucin and its derivatives lactucopicrin and 11β13-dihydrolactucin, which have been found to have analgesic activity equal or greater to that of ibuprofen in standard hot-plate and tail-flick tests of sensitivity to pain in laboratory mice. Lactucin and lactucropicrin were also found to have sedative activity in measurements of spontaneous movements of the mice.^[12] Some effects have also been credited to a trace of hyoscyamine in Lactuca virosa, but the alkaloid was undetectable in standard lactucarium.^[7]

Formulations

Lactucarium was used unmodified in lozenges, 30-60 milligrams (0.5 to 1 grain), sometimes mixed with borax. However, it was found to be more efficient to formulate the drug in a cough syrup (Syrupus Lactucarii, U.S.P.) containing net 5% lactucarium, 22% glycerin, 5% alcohol, and 5% orange-flower water in syrup.^[7]

^{copied and pasted from} http://en.wikipedia....iki/Lactucarium

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Here a method of making a concentrated version - http://www.erowid.or...xp.php?ID=18713

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you can buy the extract here - http://www.ecrater.c...resin-extract-1

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you can buy the seeds here - http://www.nickys-nu...ttuce-100-seeds

I hope that this may help you find some relief and a good nights sleep

Peace bro

Lams

[Dust]

lol that's some complete info ^^ nice job lamsbread

[Jimmy]

Nice info Lams..

[Mr.X]

Really thanks family! special Lambs for all this info, I read slowly! thnaks again! a hug family!

[Mr.X]

ok good excuse

and so all that oil you always made and other extract doesn't work for your problems?

jejje in part is excuse, in part no...really I need take pils, I talk with specialist for years a go but not work, an give me more pils, some times a lot...maybe in the next strain hunters I stay to live and heal me....who knows

[lamsbread]

Hola Mr.X

Me alegro que te haya gustado.

Lamento decir que no hablan español y por lo tanto estoy usando traductor Google.

Yo understant que podría tomar un tiempo para leer, pero que valdrá la pena.

Espero que ayuda, por favor, hágamelo saber si usted lo intenta y si no ayudan.

He incluido algunos enlaces para que usted que están todos en su lengua materna.

Hay consejos para hacer extracto y donde se pueden comprar semillas en España.

La paz sea contigo hermano

Lams

http://azarius.es/smartshop/herbs/dried_herbs/wild_lettuce_herb/

http://spanish.shayanashop.com/Psicod%C3%A9licas/Hierbas_Psicod%C3%A9licas/pd-1385-1027-pm26/Wild_Lettuce-lechuga_silvestre.aspx

http://www.lisergia.org/threads/opio-de-lechuga-silvestre-lactuca-virosa-o-serriola.939/

http://www.euskalnet.net/loalv/plantasweb/catalogo.htm

[DanMacGrowesalot]

I have smoked opium a few times over the last year. I knew little of it until I saw people at a Vancouver, BC coffee shop/ smoking lounge that I frequent milking the poppies, and from reading "Opium for the Masses" before I tried it... It smokes like fine bubble hash; on a screen or on top of a small amount of weed.

I was given Duladid and Percocet by my doctor for my symptoms, and I don't like either; many side effects. I had never tried any drug other than weed and my Rx's and don't have an addictive personality, in fact almost all drugs terrify me, so I tried very miniscule amounts (the size of a tiny pot seed) on top of a bowl in my bong... It made me giggle and smile like when I first smoked weed. I have to say, I can see how a person with less control than myself could go overboard. I would definitely say to use extreme caution with the amounts used, and use in combination with cannabis to lessen the amount necessary to get the effects desired (sleeping, pain relief) A few grams is actually a lot. That should last quite a while if you're not taking too much.

[Flail]

Mr.X

I've got a more neutral aid for you, I also Suffer from some severe insomnia.

These three things can be found at a pharmacy, or a vitamin store of sorts.

Melatonin, Valerian, And Cat nip.

The melatonin make your body relax and make it easier to get to sleep, Valerian and cat nip are antagonist to melatonin

and will help you sleep restfully.

Do not expect the potency of a sleeping pill, but if you've never taken these supplements you should be able to get a week or so of restful sleep before you build a tolerance.

you can also ask fuzzy about Vaporizing Catnip, if i remember correctly it gave him a nice chillin relax feel when Vaped with Cannabis.